peiloy3196
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Can anyone tell me where I can buy CP online? I have been searching and cannot find it.
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peiloy3196
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Oh I didnt know that. I actually just found some CP. Would it be better to use the CP or Ick Shield? This is for Velvet. I have been using Cupramine for a month now at 0.50 tested daily and my Blue Tang keeps showing symptoms every now and again.
peiloy3196
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Thanks Dmorty217. eBay is exactly where I found the cp. I've ordered the Ich Shield as recommended. Just out of curiosity what is wrong with the cp on eBay?
ThRoewer
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It's like buying illegal drugs at a street corner - you never know exactly what quality and purity you get.
peiloy3196
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Thanks for the help guys.
ThRoewer
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Don't use those - they are not (very) effective.
First, not all fish eat them or at the same rate and therefore don't necessarily get the required dose.
Second, if anything, you treat only the on-fish stages.
Treatment with the powder, especially in a hospital tank, has proven to be effective - the pellets rather not.
scooter31707
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+1 on the New Life Spectrum Ich Shielf Powder. It works wonders and very effective.
Dmorty217
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There are several including myself that had bad results with the eBay guys CP
Deinonych
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Yep. Best bet is either a pharmacy by prescription or the NLS Ick Shield Powder.
peiloy3196
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Thanks again guys. The Ich Shield powder is on order.
Randyp79
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I ordered some Ick shield powder from Amazon and have been using it for two weeks. Bare bottom QT tank with no lights, no skimmer, and no UV. Dosed according to the instructions. I woke up this morning to a Kole Tang swimming erratically and covered in ick. This stuff isn't working for me.
I have used CP in the past from Fishman Chemical, which is here in Vero Beach where I live. Theirs has worked for me in the past so I guess I will go back to CP from Fishman. I have some from my last order with them, but it expired about 18 months ago.
Just wanted to share my Ick Shield failure with everyone...
I have used CP in the past from Fishman Chemical, which is here in Vero Beach where I live. Theirs has worked for me in the past so I guess I will go back to CP from Fishman. I have some from my last order with them, but it expired about 18 months ago.
Just wanted to share my Ick Shield failure with everyone...
CP will work on velvet within 14 days. CP for ich needs a minimum of 30 days due to the variability of the back end of the life cycle.
Randyp79
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Yes, but no real reason for Kole Tang to have been in there for 2 weeks with no signs and then today be covered in ick. I did a 10 gallon water change on 29 gallon biocube QT and re-dosed the entire volume with some old CP I got from Fishman a couple years ago. The fish went from his deathbed on the bottom of the tank breathing rapidly to swimming around and picking at the glass 4 hours later.
maddhugan
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CP may work for velvet, but for ich?
CP may work for velvet, but for ich?
I truly have no idea how ppl have success in treating ich with CP. ICP should be used for velvet and not for Marine ich. I tried several times and it seems to go away and then come back super strong LATER which killed so many of my fish.
I gave-up on CP and switched to Cupramine, and it worked like a charm. Since I hate ich so much and scared of it so much I did a Tank transferred method after the copper treatment was complete and I have been watching the fish for more than 30 day in QT post treatment, and definitely the ich is gone.
But I'm afraid of one thing still, there is a tank with ich 5 feet away from QT. Is the aerosol transport of marine ich true? or is it like ppl are so scared, they started a boogie man story? I Just set up a 247 gallon with outdoor sump and there is saltwater in it now and looks amazing and don't want to let any fish inside with ich, velvet or fluke.
any help will be appreciated.............................
CP may work for velvet, but for ich?
I truly have no idea how ppl have success in treating ich with CP. ICP should be used for velvet and not for Marine ich. I tried several times and it seems to go away and then come back super strong LATER which killed so many of my fish.
I gave-up on CP and switched to Cupramine, and it worked like a charm. Since I hate ich so much and scared of it so much I did a Tank transferred method after the copper treatment was complete and I have been watching the fish for more than 30 day in QT post treatment, and definitely the ich is gone.
But I'm afraid of one thing still, there is a tank with ich 5 feet away from QT. Is the aerosol transport of marine ich true? or is it like ppl are so scared, they started a boogie man story? I Just set up a 247 gallon with outdoor sump and there is saltwater in it now and looks amazing and don't want to let any fish inside with ich, velvet or fluke.
any help will be appreciated.............................
ThRoewer
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Ich is the one parasite I'm very little concerned about.
Unless the fish are really sick I don't even bother to treat it - then with Hypo and/or TTM but would never use a immunosuppressant poison like copper.
I had that case so far only once when I left my first pair of percula for a months at the LFS while my newly set up tank was cycling. At the LFS they got so stresses out and loaded up with parasites that they got really sick and couldn't handle it on their own.
In all other cases my fish have acquired immunity faster than ich could reproduce and it just faded away after 1 to 3 waves. I had that happen countless times in the past and present.
IMO ich is a weakness parasite that will only take down fish with compromised immune system due to being kept in a highly stressful environment or other substandard conditions. Tangs fit that bill in most tanks.
Ich eradication is the only way to manage such fish and systems.
To me it is more an indicator that something is wrong in the tank.
Also, sooner or later it may just die out due to lack of suitable hosts.
That said, I still do TTM and formalin dips on new fish going in there, but more with the focus on brook, velvet, uronema and other things fish may not be able to deal with on their own.
As for CP - I used it once on a QT when a few fish showed heavy breathing and apathy (suspected velvet) and it fixed that on an instant. From all I can say Ich was not affected as some fish showed a light infection several weeks later. Likely a cyst survived somewhere.
But I know of others that used CP with success against clearly identified ich. But you have to combine it with tank transfers at begin and end of the treatment or cysts can survive and re-infect the fish.
Unless the fish are really sick I don't even bother to treat it - then with Hypo and/or TTM but would never use a immunosuppressant poison like copper.
I had that case so far only once when I left my first pair of percula for a months at the LFS while my newly set up tank was cycling. At the LFS they got so stresses out and loaded up with parasites that they got really sick and couldn't handle it on their own.
In all other cases my fish have acquired immunity faster than ich could reproduce and it just faded away after 1 to 3 waves. I had that happen countless times in the past and present.
IMO ich is a weakness parasite that will only take down fish with compromised immune system due to being kept in a highly stressful environment or other substandard conditions. Tangs fit that bill in most tanks.
Ich eradication is the only way to manage such fish and systems.
To me it is more an indicator that something is wrong in the tank.
Also, sooner or later it may just die out due to lack of suitable hosts.
That said, I still do TTM and formalin dips on new fish going in there, but more with the focus on brook, velvet, uronema and other things fish may not be able to deal with on their own.
As for CP - I used it once on a QT when a few fish showed heavy breathing and apathy (suspected velvet) and it fixed that on an instant. From all I can say Ich was not affected as some fish showed a light infection several weeks later. Likely a cyst survived somewhere.
But I know of others that used CP with success against clearly identified ich. But you have to combine it with tank transfers at begin and end of the treatment or cysts can survive and re-infect the fish.
