Chloroquine Primer

[TitanCi]

No success with the CP from ebay. Ich appeared twice in my tank during treatment, second time being the worst for my sohal. Ttm it is.



If I had to try cp again, I would try ick shield powder from NLS.



however, there was white film and weird smell from my tank, so maybe the cp wasn't pure or potent enough.

 

[GTR]

I've had more success with CP for prevention than for treatment.

 

[Dmorty217]

The eBay stuff is crap, I learned this first hand. I am confident that the NLS ich shield powder is the real deal. One thing I'm confused on is that hermits aren't affected by CP so then if it molts is it not negatively affected by CP? I ask because after using the eBay crap for 30 days then I got the ich shield powder and used that at a higher than 30mg/g which caused secondary infections in my fish from prolonged CP exposure I'm assuming. When I went to tear down my QT system I had setup (300g worth) I found amphipods crawling all over the rock in the tank even though it was enough to kill my fish. For the record I took the rock that was in the CP out of the tank and let it sit for 2 weeks and dry out. I didn't rinse or treat it with anything to remove the CP and put it in my 220g mixed reef with no problems what so ever

 

[TitanCi]

^interesting. I've read your post regarding this. I am not sure what to make of it. It's just very possible the medication doesn't affect those but fish.

Alprazo- thanks for the follow up email! [emoji16] I appreciate it!

 

[tc2007]

Ick Shield (NLS) on Amazon. It will be expensive but you know it comes from a known and reliable source.

 

[Yellow Eyes]

Is ick shield just CP medicated food?

Also I bought some of the CP from eBay, is it an algicide? Can I take some chaeto and mix it with the CP and see if it kills it off?

 

[TitanCi]

Is ick shield just CP medicated food?

Also I bought some of the CP from eBay, is it an algicide? Can I take some chaeto and mix it with the CP and see if it kills it off?

Both. Powder for bath and medicated food.

Ebay one didn't work for me.

 

[Dmorty217]

Is ick shield just CP medicated food?

Also I bought some of the CP from eBay, is it an algicide? Can I take some chaeto and mix it with the CP and see if it kills it off?

It won't kill the algae, at least the stuff from eBay won't. All it killed for me was a lot of bristleworms, after I was done with treatment I put lights above my tank and had horrible algae a few days later. Ich shield powder will kill algae and is much more potent than the eBay crap. I used the eBay stuff at 50mg/g and everything was fine. I used ich shield powder at 40mg/g instead of the 30 mg/g that recommended and killed my Red Sea Regal and Mitratus BF within 36 hrs. Not sure if that was from 40+ days of CP exposure that caused secondary infections which killed my fish or if it was the 40mg/g of ich shield powder. Now that I think about it I believe it was the more powerful CP since the two fish I mentioned died so quickly. All my other fish slowly wasted away which was said to watch happen

 

[TitanCi]

It won't kill the algae, at least the stuff from eBay won't. All it killed for me was a lot of bristleworms, after I was done with treatment I put lights above my tank and had horrible algae a few days later. Ich shield powder will kill algae and is much more potent than the eBay crap. I used the eBay stuff at 50mg/g and everything was fine. I used ich shield powder at 40mg/g instead of the 30 mg/g that recommended and killed my Red Sea Regal and Mitratus BF within 36 hrs. Not sure if that was from 40+ days of CP exposure that caused secondary infections which killed my fish or if it was the 40mg/g of ich shield powder. Now that I think about it I believe it was the more powerful CP since the two fish I mentioned died so quickly. All my other fish slowly wasted away which was said to watch happen

DM- the seller was kind enough to refund me for the lack of success with his CP.

He also confirmed his CP source is from Fishman, so it appears at least this batch is suspect. Thus, at this point probably NLS IS or straight up from a vet is going to be best.

No more ebay meds. Someone here put it best: would you buy your own meds off ebay?

 

[Dmorty217]

DM- the seller was kind enough to refund me for the lack of success with his CP.

He also confirmed his CP source is from Fishman, so it appears at least this batch is suspect. Thus, at this point probably NLS IS or straight up from a vet is going to be best.

No more ebay meds. Someone here put it best: would you buy your own meds off ebay?

That was nice of him. I have a script sitting at my pharmacy for CP in pill form but the pills have fillers in them and for the price of the pills I could buy a few bottles of the ich shield powder

 

[GTR]

We bought 1 kg from fishman and it worked fine. I use it as a preventative in holding systems and not really as a treatment. As far as algae goes it also greatly reduced the need to algae scrub the systems.

 

[laga77]

I just received 30 grams of CP in powder form from an animal pharmacy in Scottsdale AZ. You can look them up. That was a minimum size order. My vet called in the script for me and I ordered over the phone. $40 with shipping . We were in his office for him to look at my Lab. Showed him a printed out thread about CP from this site. He checked it out and called it in.

 

[Dustin Thompson]

Should top off water for a treatment tank be dosed? Or does the chloroquine precipitate back into the water? I am currently treating all my fish for ich in a hospital tank.

 

[Dmorty217]

Should top off water for a treatment tank be dosed? Or does the chloroquine precipitate back into the water? I am currently treating all my fish for ich in a hospital tank.

Top off water isn't necessary to have CP in provided your evap rate isn't large per wk. Also lighting is important not to break down the medication

 

[mujtaba]

I knew i had ich in my tank for quite some time but existing fish (Yellow tang, regal tang and a fox face) might have got resistance. I introduced Emperor angel after proper QT but it got infected very badly. I treated my DT with Chloroquine phosphate after removing most of the live rock. Emperor started to recover but regal tang and foxface seemed really stressed and stayed in their caves for a week untill i decided to pull them out. They both had really inflated bellies. I immediately put the 2 in QT without CP, where Foxface recovered by regal tang could not. Has anyone experienced this with CP?

 

[Dmorty217]

I knew i had ich in my tank for quite some time but existing fish (Yellow tang, regal tang and a fox face) might have got resistance. I introduced Emperor angel after proper QT but it got infected very badly. I treated my DT with Chloroquine phosphate after removing most of the live rock. Emperor started to recover but regal tang and foxface seemed really stressed and stayed in their caves for a week untill i decided to pull them out. They both had really inflated bellies. I immediately put the 2 in QT without CP, where Foxface recovered by regal tang could not. Has anyone experienced this with CP?

I killed a perfectly healthy Red Sea Regal and Mitratus butterfly with CP... Still not sure how it happened but it did. Certain fish I believe TTM would be much more beneficial for and I would put a Regal angel in that group. With what you just said it just confirms my thought. I only had the regal for 3 days before starting treatment, by day 2 of treatment the regal was dead

 

[snorvich]

For ich, TTM is probably preferred. But for velvet CP is much preferred.

 

[Dustin Thompson]

Thanks, Dmorty. I am not running any lights, and have most of the tank covered.

 

[Aquattro]

Any experience or observations with appetite suppression? I treated today at 15mg/L and my anthias have stopped eating. Moorish Idol still chowing down. Another guy locally has anthias in QT that was pre-dosed with CP, they haven't eaten since introduction.

 

[mujtaba]

Yes, all my fish except emperor angel stopped eating, which include Yellow tang, regal tang, fox face and ocellaris clown after dosing CP.