NaH2Ofreak
Premium Member
Here is a current photo of my dart pump. I just took it about 5 minutes ago. Chris said some salt creep was "normal". Does this appear to be a "normal" amount of salt creep?
CL pump recomendation?
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I do not have any on my operating Dart and it is running for 1.5 years. Show that to Chris and link him to this page!
That will get his attention. I have had other pumps leak like that, but not Sequence and not in a year. Your photo is a fact. I certainly see it. This is not normal for them.
That will get his attention. I have had other pumps leak like that, but not Sequence and not in a year. Your photo is a fact. I certainly see it. This is not normal for them.
purebullet417
Rimless Reef Club
nope not at all should not look like that
JetCat USA
In Memoriam
I've owned close to a dozen sequence pumps over the years, and recommend them to many satisfied reefers, I've never personally had a single problem with one, and out of the 50 or so i know of in use at the moment only one of those has ever had a problem and it was a Dart with the old volute.
my Hammerhead has been running on a CL for 3 yrs now and never been cleaned, it's as quiet today as ever and still pushing a TON of water.
my Hammerhead has been running on a CL for 3 yrs now and never been cleaned, it's as quiet today as ever and still pushing a TON of water.
NaH2Ofreak
Premium Member
I will say this about the dart pumps. My problem is unique. As well as my issue with the customer service. Most people have had good luck with their pumps and have enjoyed great customer service. I guess my experience is a fluke. Not the norm.
I have contacted and spoke with Chris on a few other occasions to no avail. I give up. The pump is currently running and it is producing awesome flow. It is not silent and makes just as much noise now as when it was new.
I am moving in January and will be selling off my livestock and dart pump. I will be setting up a new tank probably without a closed loop.
I have contacted and spoke with Chris on a few other occasions to no avail. I give up. The pump is currently running and it is producing awesome flow. It is not silent and makes just as much noise now as when it was new.
I am moving in January and will be selling off my livestock and dart pump. I will be setting up a new tank probably without a closed loop.
reeflo/sequence
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call us at 877-378-6798...some of the seals can get cracked during shipment even thought there is no apparent damage to the pump or box
RichConley
New member
A sequence dart doing 1200gph is pulling like 100w. Buy a smaller pump.
JetCat USA
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i fail to see your point, most 1200 gph pumps draw nearly twice that, have twice the noise, over twice the heat transfer and less then half the quality.
oct2274
New member
the snapper is a better option if he is worried about heat or wattage. obviously a pump that uses less wattage will introduce less heat although they run external and tend not to introduce much anyways. If he plans on upgrading to a bigger tank in the future it's kinda a no brainer just to buy the dart now.
JetCat USA
In Memoriam
the Dart and the Snapper both use the same 1/8 HP Baldor motor.
bues0022
New member
I've been just reading along to everyone's comments. It will likely be years before I upgarde to anything bigger. Money is tight, and I don't have enough room for anything larger where I'm at right now. After my fiance is done with med school, then I might upgrade....Anyway, I was looking at the performance charts of the snapper and the dart. At 1200 GPH, it looks like the dart pulls 145W, and the snapper pulls 100W, am I reading this correctly?
http://www.saltycritter.com/pumps/sequence_reeflo.htm
At 1200 GPH I'll have a total of about 27x flow in the tank. If I get much more into SPS, then I could up it plenty with the snapper (max around 2500 gph) then I'd get near 45x. I see the dart as just a waste of energy if I'm going to throttle it back that much.
Double the energy is maybe a bit much, but I haven't seen anything else at 1200 gph for less than 130W, and most are more.
http://www.saltycritter.com/pumps/sequence_reeflo.htm
At 1200 GPH I'll have a total of about 27x flow in the tank. If I get much more into SPS, then I could up it plenty with the snapper (max around 2500 gph) then I'd get near 45x. I see the dart as just a waste of energy if I'm going to throttle it back that much.
Double the energy is maybe a bit much, but I haven't seen anything else at 1200 gph for less than 130W, and most are more.
oct2274
New member
First off they don't use a baldor motor they use an AO Smith motor and second off the wattages are not the same so either the impeller is different or the armature has different windings. Either way, like i said, if he wants lower wattage at the flow use the snapper. Here are the wattage listings
Snapper
Dart
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JetCat USA
In Memoriam
you seam pretty well content with yourself so I'll gladly step aside, i admit i went from memory on the motor, most of mine are the larger pumps with the Baldor's but my Dart has a Hubbel......have a great day.
RichConley
New member
oct2274 is completely correct. The ones made in the last 2 years or so all have AO Smith motors.
Also, I dont understand why theyre being suggested. Theyre horrifically inneficient when throttled back below about 50%.
400gph at 128w?
Also, I dont understand why theyre being suggested. Theyre horrifically inneficient when throttled back below about 50%.
400gph at 128w?
RichConley
New member
The quietone4000 is an internal, but runs 1000gph at 50w.
THe tinymight runs about 1200gph and uses 80w or so.
Laguna 1500 does 1500gph and runs under 100w. (submersible)
There are plenty of pumps that would work.
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