Clarion Angels

e43devil

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I'm not sure if this is correct, but are Clarion Angels endangered? I'm not sure about collection procedures, but just saw a guy on facebook collect a couple hundred of them. He is selling them in 10 lots.
 
Listed as vulnerable.

A taxon is Vulnerable when the best available evidence indicates that it meets any of the following criteria (A to E), and it is therefore considered to be facing a high risk of extinction in the wild:

A. Reduction in population size based on any of the following:

1. An observed, estimated, inferred or suspected population size reduction of ≥ 50% over the last 10 years or three generations, whichever is the longer, where the causes of the reduction are: clearly reversible AND understood AND ceased, based on (and specifying) any of the following:

(a) direct observation

(b) an index of abundance appropriate to the taxon

(c) a decline in area of occupancy, extent of occurrence and/or quality of habitat

(d) actual or potential levels of exploitation

(e) the effects of introduced taxa, hybridization, pathogens, pollutants, competitors or parasites.

2. An observed, estimated, inferred or suspected population size reduction of ≥ 30% over the last 10 years or three generations, whichever is the longer, where the reduction or its causes may not have ceased OR may not be understood OR may not be reversible, based on (and specifying) any of (a) to (e) under A1.

3. A population size reduction of ≥ 30%, projected or suspected to be met within the next 10 years or three generations, whichever is the longer (up to a maximum of 100 years), based on (and specifying) any of (b) to (e) under A1.

4. An observed, estimated, inferred, projected or suspected population size reduction of ≥ 30% over any 10 year or three generation period, whichever is longer (up to a maximum of 100 years in the future), where the time period must include both the past and the future, and where the reduction or its causes may not have ceased OR may not be understood OR may not be reversible, based on (and specifying) any of (a) to (e) under A1.

B. Geographic range in the form of either B1 (extent of occurrence) OR B2 (area of occupancy) OR both:

1. Extent of occurrence estimated to be less than 20,000 km2, and estimates indicating at least two of a-c:

a. Severely fragmented or known to exist at no more than 10 locations.

b. Continuing decline, observed, inferred or projected, in any of the following:

(i) extent of occurrence

(ii) area of occupancy

(iii) area, extent and/or quality of habitat

(iv) number of locations or subpopulations

(v) number of mature individuals.

c. Extreme fluctuations in any of the following:

(i) extent of occurrence

(ii) area of occupancy

(iii) number of locations or subpopulations

(iv) number of mature individuals.

2. Area of occupancy estimated to be less than 2000 km2, and estimates indicating at least two of a-c:

a. Severely fragmented or known to exist at no more than 10 locations.

b. Continuing decline, observed, inferred or projected, in any of the following:

(i) extent of occurrence

(ii) area of occupancy

(iii) area, extent and/or quality of habitat

(iv) number of locations or subpopulations

(v) number of mature individuals.

c. Extreme fluctuations in any of the following:

(i) extent of occurrence

(ii) area of occupancy

(iii) number of locations or subpopulations

(iv) number of mature individuals.

C. Population size estimated to number fewer than 10,000 mature individuals and either:

1. An estimated continuing decline of at least 10% within 10 years or three generations, whichever is longer, (up to a maximum of 100 years in the future) OR

2. A continuing decline, observed, projected, or inferred, in numbers of mature individuals AND at least one of the following (a-b):

(a) Population structure in the form of one of the following:

(i) no subpopulation estimated to contain more than 1000 mature individuals, OR

(ii) all mature individuals are in one subpopulation.

(b) Extreme fluctuations in number of mature individuals.

D. Population very small or restricted in the form of either of the following:

1. Population size estimated to number fewer than 1000 mature individuals.

2. Population with a very restricted area of occupancy (typically less than 20 km2) or number of locations (typically five or fewer) such that it is prone to the effects of human activities or stochastic events within a very short time period in an uncertain future, and is thus capable of becoming Critically Endangered or even Extinct in a very short time period.

E. Quantitative analysis showing the probability of extinction in the wild is at least 10% within 100 years.
 
I believe they are legal to posses & sell... You just have to have the right paper work & permission from Mexico.
 
From what I have read and my understanding (Not facts) Is that they are endangered because they are all in such a small area that they could easily be wiped out.

I also think there are only a couple people that can legally collect them.
 
They are not endangered, the mexican government just has full control and requests a heafty bribe for their collection.
 
They were relatively inexpensive (about $70-ish) in Phoenix back in the 80's & 90's ...
...as were many species from that area
dunno if that was due to the proximity to the Gulf of California or supply or lack or regulation

..but anymore I've not seen them for less than $125
 
It was cortez tropical marine. The same company that illegally collected all the clipperton angels back in 09. Just thought it looked strange seeing that many collected. Guess I was wrong.

That is not true Cortez marine collected the clipperton angels not Cortez tropical marine
 
That is not true Cortez marine collected the clipperton angels not Cortez tropical marine

yup...

Steve Robinson of Cortez Marine, a wholesale operation located in the Bay Area community of Hayward, Calif., has plead guilty to to illegally collecting the rare Clipperton angelfish endemic to an uninhabited French atoll 800 miles off the coast of Mexico. Robinson was charged with catching 52 of the Clipperton angelfish and relabeling them as the more common Passer angelfish.

This is the same instance we reported on over two years ago when the illegal Clipperton angelfish were seized by U.S. Fish & Wildlife service workers in early 2009.

The Clipperton Islands are an uninhabited atoll that belongs to France and its permission to collect these fish was needed. Robinson is facing up to one year in prison and a $100,000 fine based off the U.S. Department of Justice's speculation that a Clipperton could fetch up to $10,000 on the open market "” something Robinson is disputing. Robinson is due back in court in San Francisco to face sentencing on November 30.

We have to give Robinson credit for making the trek all the way out to the atoll to collect fish but he should have filed the proper paperwork to collect these species. In the article, Robinson disputes their rarity since they thrive in abundance in their native habitat. He could have presented his case to the proper authorities and had the sole, legal collection rights but he chose to ignore law and tempt fate.

In the original seizure, 40 of the 52 were alive. We haven't seen any of the Clipperton angelfish since then and can only assume they mostly died in captivity. While Robinson and others have worked hard to educated the industry and hobby on ecologically safe and sustainable harvesting techniques, illegally capturing and mislabeling fish does nothing but provide another black eye for the hobby.
 
where were they $125? I thought clarions sell for over 5,000?

I meant to ask the same question...
I got one in 1991 sent to me from a store in Arizona and it was $400...
They are now a whole lot more than that...
 
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