Cleaner Shrimp Mystery?!?!

CKreef

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Okay so over the past several months I have bought about 8 cleaner shrimp. Only one has made it!!! The other seven have not made it 5 minutes. I have done everything from slow drip acclimation to just floating the bag and dumping them in. What the heck is going on?? I bought one today and acclimated it for about an hour. It looked fine in the bag. Then I released it and it swam to the bottom and began picking at the sand. Within a few minutes it just sat motionless. I stuck my hand near it and it darted back and then sat motionless again. Shortly thereafter it laid on its side and died. I have had no problems acclimating fish or corals. Corals usually open shortly after going into the tank. Other inverts I have put in have done fine(cucumber,pistol shrimp,pom pom crab, hermits,starfish, and snails). Why cant I get more than one cleaner shrimp to live in my tank???? The water tests fine. Someone please help!!! I would like another cleaner shrimp but I am tired of killing all of them!!! Any info or helpful tips would be great!!! Thanks Chris
 
I drip mine for about 3 hours prior to introducing to the tank. Maybe the next time you get a cleaner, measure the water params both of your tank and the water in the bag. They can be very sensitive to salinity, pH, and temp.
 
In addition to being salinity sensitive, most shrimp are highly sensitive to temperature. Temp acclimation is great, but the damage could be happening on the way home if they are getting too hot/cold. In other words, temp swings are bad, but so are temps that are "out of range" of normal regardless of how fast the temperature gets there.

Honestly though, it sounds like a water acclimation problem (osmotic shock). We drip our shrimp for at least 2 hours and that has helped survivability immensely. We have about 10 sexi shrimp, 1 fire, 1 cleaner, 1 peppermint, 2 pistol shrimp, and a reef lobster (I know some of these aren't shrimp, but they all have the same osmotic problems). There are (at least) 2 important things about dripping them. If you're already doing these, great, hopefully someone else learns something.

You have to take into consideration the amount of water you start with and the rate at which you are adding the new (if you start with a small volume of water, you're adding a larger proportion of new water for each drip into the bucket than if you start with a larger volume of water). What we do is aim to about double the water volume after an hour. After that hour, dump we dump the water level down to the original level and double the volume in about 30 minutes. Dump off half and double in 15 minutes... and so on. This method lets us slowly increase the proportion of our water to the fish store water until the water in the bucket is almost all our water. It also changes the water chemistry more slowly to start with (when the bucket water and drip water are most discrepant from one another) and accelerates the process as the water in your acclimation bucket becomes more your water. If this description sounds like a pain in the butt... it is.

The other thing to think about is temperature as you're doing this. If you drip acclimate this slow and over the course of hours, the temp in the bucket is going to continuously drop. Although you're adding tank water, you aren't likely to be adding enough water to keep the temp of the acclimation water up. Thus, when you dump the shrimp in, despite being acclimated to the water chemistry, it will not be acclimated to the water temperature. The easiest/best way to get rid of this problem is by floating or partially submerging your acclimation container in your sump.
 
You have to realize that the store may not have acclimated them correctly, the supplier may not have acclimated them correctly, or the collectors may not have acclimated them correctly. They could be doomed before you got them. If you have been getting them from the same place you might try somewhere else. I have had similar problems before and tried a different store and didn't have any problem at all.
 
yeah it might be from the store... I know this place in clarksville (I wont say the name) that sells fish really really cheap but I stopped buying from them when I went to buy some fish from them the day the shipment came in and I guess they were in a hurry to leave so they just dumped the fish, anemones,snails,shrimps,starfishes, etc without acclimating them for even 30 seconds...

They just cut the bags open and dumped them in with the water they came with... The whole time my jaw was on the floor..

They got in this beautiful parrot fish and just dumped him in.. as soon as he went in he just went in one corner and about 3 minutes later he was gone... I told them and they said ohh he'll be fine..

There are only 2 fish places in clarksville so it shouldnt be too hard to guess which one it was...
 
when we purchase our things (we have a cleaner), we usually float for about 30 min....then use a turkey baster and add just a little bit over the next 30 min...honestly...we have never lost anything on acclimation. All shrimps have always survived. I realize some may not agree, but sometimes based on the history of the critter, I think being in a bag, or long drip in small bucket can be so much more stressful that a short acclimation and a quicker comeback from the stress of being moved. Just a thought......
 
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