Cleaning of your sump

mj1200 + clear hose + rubber maid container with a hole in the top and bottom + pillow fill from walmart = easy and lazy if you think it is an issue.
 
Ok. So here is the question. I have a large sump. I use the sump as a refugioum. Is it ok to leave in the detritus. If inget rid of it. Lotsmof critters will go with it
 
As OP I have not cleaned my sump for two months now. My PO4 just tested zero 0.0 for the first time ever this weekend. I use brightwell PO4 remover, bio pellets and bacteria dose. It is finally paying off.
 
How often do you guys clean your sumps? If you're using a wet dry vac, do you just try to add more water after the cleaning? Seems that a wet/dry vac would take a lot of water out very quickly.
 
changed my mind.. just took a bunch of ten year old sand an gravel out.. literally like mud an nasty.. will strive to take all detritus out everywhere..
 
Mine is one 2x4 and plywood off the ground. With 8 in head of water gives about 11.5 head height of water. Pumps off raises it to 14 in or more. Gravity does the work into a wide bottom bucket. Although I like the mj1200 idea will try that next time.
 
I drain most of my water from the sump using a python, and then I use a Buckethead wet/dry vac on a 5 gallon bucket for the rest. The Buckethead is $20 at Home Depot. It is a wet/dry vac that fits on a 5 gallon bucket.
 
I use a small powerhead attached to a timer that moves the water in the return part of my sump. I also run filter socks to minimize what goes into my sump. once a year when I am feeling ambitious I will siphon out some detritus out if there is any from the sump as part of a water change and that's it. I also have tons of mysis shrimp in my sump so I don't really go crazy cleaning it.
 
It probably does contribute to nutrients, but my tank apparently has adequate export methods that I do not need to worry about it. :)

Anecdotally two weeks ago I pulled two under tank Rubbermade tub sumps and replaced them with two glass tanks that I drilled myself. This was very easy to do BTW. Anyway, due to the configuration of my stand and its current location, I have to use two sumps connected by a 2" line. The first sump holds my skimmer, carbon and GFO. The second sump has live rock and rubble. When I pulled out the Rubbbermade sumps there was a lot of crud in the refugium sump. I dumped that and shook off the rocks when I put them into the new glass sumps. The result was an obvious improvement in color in all of my corals. I can't explain why, but I know that I observed this.
 
changed my mind.. just took a bunch of ten year old sand an gravel out.. literally like mud an nasty.. will strive to take all detritus out everywhere..

I'm doing the same in my main display. I have pockets of accumulated sugar fine aragonite that is 1"-2" deep. Recently I've been siphoning this out, and the water that comes out with the sand is almost black and there is clearly a sulfur smell. I'm going to keep doing this until there is very little sand in the display. I'm starting to believe that the less sand in the display the better. I might change the substrate out to a larger particle size so that there is a thin layer covering the glass bottom and it won't get blown around. I have to believe that this is good for pod production as well.

Lou
 
I too am one who just believes its all natural and Never cleans sumps also have a small nano tank that I have Never cleaned and done nothing but add good old fasion tap water full of contaminats and all, and I am amazed to say that tank has less problems at times then main display lol, the growth of mushrooms and such are out of controll a bulb went out months ago and its only running off a daylight now still strong, Just saying it works for me.
 
Anecdotally two weeks ago I pulled two under tank Rubbermade tub sumps and replaced them with two glass tanks that I drilled myself. This was very easy to do BTW. Anyway, due to the configuration of my stand and its current location, I have to use two sumps connected by a 2” line. The first sump holds my skimmer, carbon and GFO. The second sump has live rock and rubble. When I pulled out the Rubbbermade sumps there was a lot of crud in the refugium sump. I dumped that and shook off the rocks when I put them into the new glass sumps. The result was an obvious improvement in color in all of my corals. I can’t explain why, but I know that I observed this.

Dou you think the corals benefitted from the detritus getting stirred up?
 
Dou you think the corals benefitted from the detritus getting stirred up?

Likely the removal of the detritus has lowered the overall phosphate and nitrate of the system.

My 7 year old tank is a disaster. High phosphates that I can't keep down, no matter what. I have been dumping the overlfow into a 10 micron filter sock and using a powerhead and stick to blow everything off and stir the substrate. Things are getting clearly better.

I am doing the same for the sump that is full of LR. Again, there is a clear impact on the livestock. 7 years worth of sediment in the sump can not be good... no matter how healthy things look for 6 years!
 
I maintain reef tanks and I will either empty the sump with a python or a submersible utility pump. I try to do this every 2 months or so.
 
Just took out my skimmer, return pumps, and all other equiptment out of my 40b sump and removed all water. Use a MJ1200 and some tubing to pull all of the water out into 5g pails. I then took a bucket of RO water and a new sponge and cleaned out every inch of the sump till it looked like new. Put everything back in and fired up the system again.

I am very happy with the results. Well worth the time. I have noticed that I have to clean the glass a lot less in the 2 weeks since I completed this task.

I am also a believer in vacuuming the gravel. I do weekly water changes and I am always amazed at the deep brown water that I have in my buckets after siphoning the substrate.
 
I am also a believer in vacuuming the gravel. I do weekly water changes and I am always amazed at the deep brown water that I have in my buckets after siphoning the substrate.

The larger the substrate on the bottom, the more it will accumulate debris in it.
 
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