Clownfish question

[Jblank44]

So right now i am acclimating a pair of percs... however i think there is an isopod on the side of the fish... but i have also been told it may be just a scare because they fight a lot when they are all grouped together and it could be something from that and its more common to be that...

I pulled it out of my acclimation bucket and looked at it and it doesnt really look like a isopod but ive never seen one, just internet pictures so im not 100% sure.

it is tan-ish and looks to bulge out a little bit... Once i have it in the tank I will be able to take a picture, and if it may actually be something then i will freshwater bath it later today.

any other ideas on what it could be? Is it very common to find isopods attached to their sides?

 

[HumbleFish]

Could be an infection or growth of some kind, or even a tumor. Post pics as soon as you can. Hopefully you are acclimating into a QT, and not your DT (in case whatever this is, is contagious).

 

[Jblank44]

Could be an infection or growth of some kind, or even a tumor. Post pics as soon as you can. Hopefully you are acclimating into a QT, and not your DT (in case whatever this is, is contagious).

These are really bad... I'm gonna try and use a better camera but I tried to get it posted quickly. My qt is being set up... Couldn't do much about it so I'm risking some... I'm going to freshwater dip in a little just to be sure

 

[HumbleFish]

You sure that's not just something off with his coloration? Like an abnormality?

 

[Jblank44]

You sure that's not just something off with his coloration? Like an abnormality?

Posting good pics here in a second.... ill show you, it doesnt really look like an abnormality but then again it could be. His lips are also white is and look a tad bit puffy

 

[Jblank44]

I guess these arent 'amazing' but much better than the ones before. Maybe you can get an idea. I dont have a good macro so i cant really get its small body... it is like a 1/6" big.

for a larger pic check out this...

http://imgur.com/a/cCdxt

 

[HumbleFish]

I see it now. That could very well be the beginnings of Brooklynella... or a bacterial infection. I can't say for sure from the pics.

If I were you, I'd Google "Brooklynella", do some research, and try to make a determination about that. That is your first step.

 

[Jblank44]

I see it now. That could very well be the beginnings of Brooklynella... or a bacterial infection. I can't say for sure from the pics.

If I were you, I'd Google "Brooklynella", do some research, and try to make a determination about that. That is your first step.

Okay well I preformed a freshwater dip... He was in it for about 3-4 min and nothing came off or look as if it died...

edit:

I looked up clownfish disease and I didnt see many similarities. I am setting up a QT and I will try and move him over... will probably try and do another freshwater dip when transferring him over. I will have to see what it could possibly be. I'm a little confused as to what it could be. Anyone with some other tips would be great! Thanks

 

[Newsmyrna80]

Geez Humblefish is probably right. I had an angel that had a marking/pimple like this and a week later is when the classic (actually advanced) symptoms, of brook appeared.

 

[Jblank44]

Geez Humblefish is probably right. I had an angel that had a marking/pimple like this and a week later is when the classic (actually advanced) symptoms, of brook appeared.

Well maybe I will move it over to QT soon and treat it for brook... It is so hard to say what it could actually be...

 

[Jblank44]

Could it be nothing and just some abnormality?

 

[HumbleFish]

Could it be nothing and just some abnormality?

The problem is, if it is a disease, it looks to the very beginnings of it. So, it's hard to pin down exactly what it is until more symptoms show or become more obvious. Or it may just be damage of some sort and heal/disappear.

 

[Jblank44]

The problem is, if it is a disease, it looks to the very beginnings of it. So, it's hard to pin down exactly what it is until more symptoms show or become more obvious. Or it may just be damage of some sort and heal/disappear.

okay, that's the thing, i dont want to stress him out moving it to the qt if it is fine. The lump doesnt scare me as much as the white on his lip scares me. I will see in the morning and maybe take a trip to the LFS for some medicine.

 

[Deinonych]

Were these fish tank-bred or wild caught? If the latter, brooklynella could be at work here.

 

[Jblank44]

Clownfish question

Were these fish tank-bred or wild caught? If the latter, brooklynella could be at work here.

I'm not 100% sure... I was gonna ask them today. Once I read that it appears most in wild caught percs I started to think if they were or not. So even if I'm not sure what it is, is there any broad treatments I can do to knock it out before it comes worse?

 

[HumbleFish]

I'm not 100% sure... I was gonna ask them today. Once I read that it appears most in wild caught percs I started to think if they were or not. So even if I'm not sure what it is, is there any broad treatments I can do to knock it out before it comes worse?

You could do a formalin bath, but that only treats Brook (and provides temp relief for Velvet). But it can be done in a bowl and the fish is returned to the DT afterwards; so no QT needed at this point. Most LFS (and even Walmart pet section) sell "Quick Cure" and that contains formalin.

You should see almost immediate improvement after treating with formalin if this is Brook.

 

[Paul B]

There is no isopod on that fish. Lousy picture but it just looks like he got bit and some scales are missing. If so, it will heal on it's own.

 

[Jblank44]

You could do a formalin bath, but that only treats Brook (and provides temp relief for Velvet). But it can be done in a bowl and the fish is returned to the DT afterwards; so no QT needed at this point. Most LFS (and even Walmart pet section) sell "Quick Cure" and that contains formalin.

You should see almost immediate improvement after treating with formalin if this is Brook.

Okay, im going to look at him today and see how he looks... if i still see it or feel i see it im going to go get some formalin. have you done it before? From what I have read, correct me if im wrong, 30-60 minutes in formalin once a day for about 5 days and it should be gone.

also, if it isnt brook, will a formalin bath hurt him?

 

[HumbleFish]

Okay, im going to look at him today and see how he looks... if i still see it or feel i see it im going to go get some formalin. have you done it before? From what I have read, correct me if im wrong, 30-60 minutes in formalin once a day for about 5 days and it should be gone.

also, if it isnt brook, will a formalin bath hurt him?

Formalin is formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. Highly toxic to all animals. However, Quick Cure contains a very low percentage of formaldehyde, so most fish can take it. Most fish - there is always a risk. The only fish I've ever had die during (or shortly after) a formalin bath were in pretty bad shape prior to dipping. I generally dip for 45 mins max, and aerate heavily before and during the bath as formalin will quickly deplete the water of O2. If you decide to do the bath, just do one for now and wait & see what happens next.

FWIW; Paul B may be right... this may just be something that will heal on it's own. Only time will tell. When dealing with something "small" and ambiguous so early on, it's never an easy decision whether to treat preemptively, or just take the wait & see approach. I generally will treat preemptively; but after 35 years, I am very comfortable using any & all fish medications.

 

[Jblank44]

Formalin is formaldehyde, a known carcinogen. Highly toxic to all animals. However, Quick Cure contains a very low percentage of formaldehyde, so most fish can take it. Most fish - there is always a risk. The only fish I've ever had die during (or shortly after) a formalin bath were in pretty bad shape prior to dipping. I generally dip for 45 mins max, and aerate heavily before and during the bath as formalin will quickly deplete the water of O2. If you decide to do the bath, just do one for now and wait & see what happens next.

FWIW; Paul B may be right... this may just be something that will heal on it's own. Only time will tell. When dealing with something "small" and ambiguous so early on, it's never an easy decision whether to treat preemptively, or just take the wait & see approach. I generally will treat preemptively; but after 35 years, I am very comfortable using any & all fish medications.

Okay, he looks to be about the same if not a tad bit better today. Both havent ate and ive tried to get them to eat... however since i added them yesterday they are probably still getting acclimated. I know that it isnt ich... so i picked up some rally. The treats a large variety of things, but ill wait a bit to see if he gets better or not.