Yes that makes sense about the z axis wobble, Bill. That seems to be a real concern amongst the folks at the cnczone forum, just reading what others have posted. It looks like the jgro free plan machine could be used to cut parts for its replacement though, and would offer a learning curve while it is being constructed and used to make things. The electronics could also be re-used on a new machine if they are purchased oversized, with this thought of recycling them, in mind. What programs do you use to draw, convert, and cut; Bill?