colonies???

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12312004#post12312004 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
I dont think so. Most of those colonies are being bought at UNREAL per head prices. Colonies are not hard to find at all. Every vendor has them.

Vendors arent getting in 1-3 head aussie acan frags from Australia. They get in large colonies and chop them up to make insane profit. They pay a few hundred per colony for some nice aussie acans. Say they have 75 heads or so. The vendors know they cant sell the whole 75 head colony for $7500. People would say they are insane and laugh but they can certainly chop it up into 25 3 head frags and sell each of them for $300 each and make a profit that has never been imagined in this hobby. Then everybody jumps up and down acting like they got some great deal.

The white knights will lie and say that isnt what is happening but everyone knows that it is the truth.

Actually, I was referring to the original poster's question about what is in people's tanks. It is the vendors, not so much the hobbyists that are doing the fragging.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12317129#post12317129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by All Delight
So I took your advice, and I clicked on Frag Farmers site. And you are waaaaay off.

AUSSIE ACAN #1, $300 about 40 heads = $7.5 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #7, $275 about 11 heads = $25 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #8, $375 about 45 heads = $8.35 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #10, $400 about 25 heads = $16 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #11, $500 about 45 heads = $11.11 a head

Why do you continue to mislead people with $60 or even $300 a head prices. :confused:

I really can't figure out why you try to constantly say that vendors are charging $300 a head. By the way I stopped comparing the prices you find because I just don't see it.

I even clicked on the first vendor like you suggested, which is Live Aquaria.

Item # 022908041, $130 about 9 heads = $14.45 a head

Seriously, get a life! Is selling your frags and getting deals from vendors you are buddies with so IMPORTANT to you that you are willing to LIE to your fellow reefers over and over again??? We all know YOU are on a mission to get your frags sold in the future for TOP dollar!

How am i off? I said i clicked on the first vendor ad and put AA in parenthesis. I didnt name it then but its ATlantis Aquariums. They do not have one morph for less than $40 ahead, a few for $60 and the rest are at least $75 a head and up to $300 a head! We all know how much you have invested and are hoping to rip people off for on frags in the future but those are facts! Heres the link to the page FULL of over $75 a head acans frags so who is the liar now bigguy?????
http://www.atlantisaquarium.net/frags5.html
You people doing this to the hobby are seriously scum of the lowest degree!
 
Btw, alldelight, it's funny to see you NOW arguing how acans are so much less expensive considering how much time and effort you spent posting all kinds of nonsense in here the last few months. Examples of those ridiculous posts by you and your buddies recently:

1) aussie prices will not come down and in fact are going to go up because shipping and collection prices are soo high(LIE)

2) prices wont go down and will in fact go up because these color morphs are so rare(LIE)

3)prices wont go down and will in fact go up because Australia is stopping all exports VERY soon(LIE)

Remeber all that nonsense??? What happened to all those lies you and your buddies were shoving down everyone's throats to justify the $100's per head aussies that EVERYONE was selling a little while back????
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12314948#post12314948 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
Look anywhere! I clicked the very 1st sponsor add that sold corals(AA) on here just now and the CHEAPEST aussie frags they have are 1 morph for $60, a bunch for $75-80, and the rest are between $125 and $300 PER HEAD.

I really cant figure out why everyone tries to deny how much these things are sold for:confused: Click on ANY vendor add here and the aussue acan frags are the same price. Minimum $40-60 a head and up to $250-300 a head.

Ok, I'll give you Atlantis Aquarium. That IS 1, vendor. I will REPEAT 1 vendor, to back up your statement.

However YOU, stated, "look anywhere!". I do believe that is your opening statement.

You've got to be brain dead.

I don't know why you insist on saying that "I" say that prices will not go down. How dumb is that. I just pointed out how cheap you can find them. Is $7.50, $8.35, $11.00 a head not cheap? Is it? I mean what kind of prices are you looking for. Free? Have I ever started a thread stating, "Get you Aussie Acans now, before they stop exporting"? Did I ever say that prices will not come down? I remember all THAT non sense that you try to say I did, but never answered me when I called you out.

The dumbest part of your arguement is that you say I'm selling my Aussie Acans frags. Where? Where am I selling them? Find one single thread here on RC that I sold Aussie Acans. Find an ebay auction where I sold Aussie Acans. Find one single person in this entire world, to who I sold an Aussie Acan. Truth is you won't because I've never, ever sold one single frag of them.

The only thing you will find is that sold a colony of Aussie Micros here on RC, and if my memory serves me correct, that entire colony went for less then $5 a head. Oh I guess I'm ripping off the hobbyist right? I bet that reefer, 2 weeks later found it at a LFS for $1 a polyp.

Rememeber sufunk, when you attack me, please state the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth.

Please when you post statements here on RC, lets try for them to be the truth. I know its your job to manipulate and twist statements around or pull statements out of context to your advantage, but this is a hobby ok.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12318259#post12318259 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
Btw, alldelight, it's funny to see you NOW arguing how acans are so much less expensive considering how much time and effort you spent posting all kinds of nonsense in here the last few months. Examples of those ridiculous posts by you and your buddies recently:

1) aussie prices will not come down and in fact are going to go up because shipping and collection prices are soo high(LIE)

2) prices wont go down and will in fact go up because these color morphs are so rare(LIE)

3)prices wont go down and will in fact go up because Australia is stopping all exports VERY soon(LIE)

Remeber all that nonsense??? What happened to all those lies you and your buddies were shoving down everyone's throats to justify the $100's per head aussies that EVERYONE was selling a little while back????

Please back up your story. Find the thread where I, All Delight, said 1, 2, or 3.

I'd like to see this. If your aren't lying I'm sure my request will not be a problem. Because according to you, I'm saying this all the time right?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
When the search function works again, maybe i'll bother looking thru your 2000 posts:rolleyes:

In nearly any aussie acan thread questioning prices(and there have been many) in the last year, you and about 4 others continually defend the prices and online vendors against mine and a few others complaints.

Have you not talked DIRECTLY to me in many different threads trying to belittle my claims that online vendors are ripping people off on aussie acan's and justify their prices? Guess this is the 1st time we've disagreed about this and i'm imagining things.

Everyone in the know knows what the truth really is with these aussie acan's despite what they may or may not post or here. People are being ripped off plain and simple. If they dont care and will pay anything for a coral that is fine but these price issues are destroying this hobby and turning it from enjoyment to greed. If that doesn't bother you, so be it but i find it very sad.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12318679#post12318679 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by All Delight
Please back up your story. Find the thread where I, All Delight, said 1, 2, or 3.

I'd like to see this. If your aren't lying I'm sure my request will not be a problem. Because according to you, I'm saying this all the time right?

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Without even trying because i remembered this thread here you go. Person posts talking about the insane price of acans, two people post agreeing with the op. Then andrewkw posts saying how the nice ones(3+colors) will probably NEVER drop and may get even MORE expensive before they ever drop. I post saying how ridiculous that is and how i just got a 5 color morph for less than $10 a head. Two posts later who shows up to defend the insane price of acans and the fact their price wont decline and may even go up, yep ALLdelight. Your 1st words are "i agree with andrewkw"
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1287964&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Are you not agreeing with Andrew that the price of nice ones(which is my reason #2) may never go down and are just as likely to go up because they are "one of a kind" and so "rare" right there on page 1?
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12317129#post12317129 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by All Delight
So I took your advice, and I clicked on Frag Farmers site. And you are waaaaay off.

AUSSIE ACAN #1, $300 about 40 heads = $7.5 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #7, $275 about 11 heads = $25 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #8, $375 about 45 heads = $8.35 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #10, $400 about 25 heads = $16 a head
AUSSIE ACAN #11, $500 about 45 heads = $11.11 a head

Why do you continue to mislead people with $60 or even $300 a head prices. :confused:

I really can't figure out why you try to constantly say that vendors are charging $300 a head. By the way I stopped comparing the prices you find because I just don't see it.

I even clicked on the first vendor like you suggested, which is Live Aquaria.

Item # 022908041, $130 about 9 heads = $14.45 a head

I don't want to get in the middle of anything here but I would like to point out that while the above examples are indeed below $25 a head these are colonies. The prices you actually have to pay to get below $25 a head are from $275 to $500. Usually when you buy things in bulk the price per individual thing is less, as is the case here. The smallest colony up there is 11 heads and its price is closely approaching $30 a head. I would bet for a 5 or 6 head frag the price would be above $30 a head. Paying $500 to get 45 heads at $11 a head is great but not many people are willing to pay $500 for a colony. So realistically most people probably are paying upwards of $30 a head. Show me a nice Aussie acan frag with 5 heads for $16 a head and I'll buy it.
 
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12319236#post12319236 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
Without even trying because i remembered this thread here you go. Person posts talking about the insane price of acans, two people post agreeing with the op. Then andrewkw posts saying how the nice ones(3+colors) will probably NEVER drop and may get even MORE expensive before they ever drop. I post saying how ridiculous that is and how i just got a 5 color morph for less than $10 a head. Two posts later who shows up to defend the insane price of acans and the fact their price wont decline and may even go up, yep ALLdelight. Your 1st words are "i agree with andrewkw"
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1287964&perpage=25&pagenumber=1

Are you not agreeing with Andrew that the price of nice ones(which is my reason #2) may never go down and are just as likely to go up because they are "one of a kind" and so "rare" right there on page 1?

There you go again. Can you stop taking things out of context then adding what you will to make your invalid point. Here is my exact post:


"I'm with Andrew. The nice rainbow color with 3, 4, even 5 colors are going to hold their value. I haven't seen them for over $100 a head, so I'm not aware of people even charging $200 or $300 a head. I've seen colonies of the nice rainbows for under $600 with approx 15 heads, $45 a head or so. And I've seen colonies with 2 colors with 15 heads for around $150.

Obivously the prices are inflated, but realized importers and LFS's are out to make money. Its a business, not a friendship."


Please tell me that you are literate and can read the last sentence of my post. Let me quote myself, "Obivously the prices are inflated, but realize importers and LFS's are out to make money. Its a business, not a friendship".

Didn't I just say that the prices are inflated? So where do you get off saying that I'm defending these sellers? Where do you get off saying that I'm hyping up these corals so onlines sellers can make more money? Tell me that?

You're the one claiming that people are selling these for over $100 a polyp, even $300. What I'm claiming is that if people looked around they can find these are reasonable prices.

Did I not prove that, in referring to Frag Farmers site? You claim Atlantis is ripping people off right? I'd like for you to find a post where I referred someone to Atlantis' site to but Aussie Acans. Truth is, I never did. Thats why you'll never be able prove it.
 
Here's a quote from me


I know of only one place that sells or sold Aussie acans for more then $100 a polyp, and that was Atlantis. But they are over priced IMO. But everyone defends Atlantis by saying well they have a huge collection of rarities and you can get it all in one place, and that they are nice people. Thats cool, whatever. But I doubt that they even sell it that much now days.

When the aussie first came around I can understand $100 a polyp. But never $250.


What I find funny is that you claim that Atlantis is ripping people off right? Can we get that straight? I assume you'd have to answer yes.

Well if you read my post from that thread you linked, I'm basically backing your side saying that they are over priced. Aren't I? Or am I reading it incorrectly?

Thats what really upsets me.

My point is that some people, some people still stick it to you given the opportunity. And thats with anything, not just corals. It happens in many hobbies.

But you continue to claim that I hype up Aussie Acans and that I claim that $100 a polyp is the going rate when thats clearly not the case.

Everytime you say, its All Delight and his buddies, getting the craze going.

Its just comical at this point.

How many threads have I started about Aussie Acans? Tell me?
 
And I do agree with Andrew that the prices may not come down anytime soon. The key words are anytime soon. But like you always to you omit words and take things out of context to make your point.

And what is the defination of soon? I would define soon; in a short time. Is 6 months a short time? 1 year a short time? In this hobby what is a short time?

And I also requested for you to prove or show us were you got your 5 color Aussie acans for $10 a head, but you never did. I even told you that if you could point me to your source that I would kick you back something for saving me money. But no you never did. I'm starting to believe that you never did buy 5 color Aussie acans for $10.
 
<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12319117#post12319117 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by sufunk
In nearly any aussie acan thread questioning prices(and there have been many) in the last year, you and about 4 others continually defend the prices and online vendors against mine and a few others complaints.

Have you not talked DIRECTLY to me in many different threads trying to belittle my claims that online vendors are ripping people off on aussie acan's and justify their prices? Guess this is the 1st time we've disagreed about this and i'm imagining things.

/B]

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

As you continue to do, you ignore my statement that Atlantis overcharges. See my above quote
 
Mr.A -

Sorry for getting your thread off course. I really didn't intend on it. I let sufunk get under my skin. Again I apologize.

Sufunk -

If you wish to continue the debate pm me. I won't be responding to anything else you have to say in this thread.
 
Bringing it back on track...

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~Mike
 
sorry i havent replied, i have been on vacation in St. Lucia and just got back a little while ago. Nice corals everyone that posted, would love to see more. i think colonies look way better than little 1-4 polyp frags.
 
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