Color beauty and flame angel are reef safe?

[tiagoandrade]

Hello!
I have doubt if these fishies are reef safe and and if I can keep one in a tank of 84 liters.

Tks

 

[hotelbravo]

my flame angel hasnt touched any zoa, polyps, or mushrooms. but thats all i have.

 

[ca1ore]

There are bazillions of these threads, and the 'advice' is always the same. Some people keep them with no problems, others with some problems, and still others with huge problems. Most sellers list these fish as reef safe 'with caution' as a result. Why people's experiences with these fish vary are unclear. Fish are individuals, and all tanks are different, so probably no explanation will be satisfactory beyond that. My own personal experiences with them is varied; even a 'good' one can become a problem if kept long enough. Probably crowding one (84l is too small) will make things worse.

 

[snorvich]

There are bazillions of these threads, and the 'advice' is always the same. Some people keep them with no problems, others with some problems, and still others with huge problems. Most sellers list these fish as reef safe 'with caution' as a result. Why people's experiences with these fish vary are unclear. Fish are individuals, and all tanks are different, so probably no explanation will be satisfactory beyond that. My own personal experiences with them is varied; even a 'good' one can become a problem if kept long enough. Probably crowding one (84l is too small) will make things worse.

What he said.

 

[tiagoandrade]

There are bazillions of these threads, and the 'advice' is always the same. Some people keep them with no problems, others with some problems, and still others with huge problems. Most sellers list these fish as reef safe 'with caution' as a result. Why people's experiences with these fish vary are unclear. Fish are individuals, and all tanks are different, so probably no explanation will be satisfactory beyond that. My own personal experiences with them is varied; even a 'good' one can become a problem if kept long enough. Probably crowding one (84l is too small) will make things worse.

thanks. seller I bought most of my equipment indicated me to buy one of these fish, I was afraid seeing so many negative reports mainly about sps corals. about the size of my tank, so better wait for a future project with more space!

thanks

 

[Dmorty217]

Dwarf angels are the worst for actually being reef safe and are a 50/50 risk at best

 

[tiagoandrade]

Dwarf angels are the worst for actually being reef safe and are a 50/50 risk at best

I understand. Tks

 

[Giovanni]

Buy a good fish trap and have an avenue to off load the ones that eat corals.

 

[tiagoandrade]

Buy a good fish trap and have an avenue to off load the ones that eat corals.

I want to try it.

 

[laga77]

I have found that keeping the fish well fed, not only quantity but quality of food helps a great deal with fish not attacking inverts. Feed the angels a wide selection of fresh, frozen and live foods. Skip the pellets and the only flake you should feed is algae flake. All my angels and my CBB leave my corals and clams alone.

 

[snorvich]

I have found that keeping the fish well fed, not only quantity but quality of food helps a great deal with fish not attacking inverts. Feed the angels a wide selection of fresh, frozen and live foods. Skip the pellets and the only flake you should feed is algae flake. All my angels and my CBB leave my corals and clams alone.

Except the OP has a 21 gallon tank which makes the strategy recommended difficult if not impossible.

 

[tiagoandrade]

I have a variety of dried, fresh and live food. I have a rock with sponges, some species of angel fish feed on this. Can it make target of the Fish or stimulates him to eat corals?

 

[laga77]

Except the OP has a 21 gallon tank which makes the strategy recommended difficult if not impossible.

I did not catch that the tank was in liters. That is way too small for an angel.

 

[tiagoandrade]

Is really too small for an angel.

Tks

 

[laga77]

I would not keep a Dwarf Angel in anything less than a 50G. Liveaquaria recommends a 70G tank as the smallest.

 

[WhoScott]

No way I would try an angel in a tank that small. Maybe wait until you upgrade to a larger size tank.

 

[tiagoandrade]

Yes, yesterday bought the book 101 Best species nano reef and dwarves angels are in the "species to avoid."

Tks