coral beauty angelfish - reef safe?

[timdam]

i hear they can be reef safe. who has experiences with these?

 

[Levito]

It doesn't matter what responses you get here. You're going to get a bunch of people who have had them successfully in a reef tank, and a bunch of people who had them nip at everything in their reef.
Whether or not you get one depends on A) what coral & inverts you have in your reef and B) whether or not you're willing to risk what you currently have in that tank by putting a coral beauty in there.
Don't let other people's anecdotal evidence that they've had success with these fish be your deciding factor. The one you (may) purchase will have it's own personality may or may not go after your corals. It's all about the risk you're willing to take to get this fish into your reef tank.

 

[anbosu]

Generally speaking dwarf angels are not reef safe. I have one in my FOWLR that is constantly picking at the rocks; I would imagine it doing the same to the corals in my reef were it in there.

 

[timdam]

interesting. b/c this site says all the dwarfs are reef safe.

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/Angelfish, Dwarf_c_240.html

 

[snorvich]

interesting. b/c this site says all the dwarfs are reef safe.

http://www.saltwaterfish.com/Angelfish, Dwarf_c_240.html

Last time I checked, they were trying to sell fish. None of the posters above have that same agenda. Speaking in generalities, dwarf angels are not "reef safe". But if you want to roll the dice, you may accidentally get one that in the short run will ignore your corals. But you may wake up one morning and the light has gone on in the fishes brain and it now will eat corals.

 

[anbosu]

I think most people that successfully keep dwarf angels in reefs:

1. Feed a varied, high quality diet very frequently
2. Have so much coral growth they wouldn't notice if the fish was eating corals anyway

 

[LisaD]

never trust information about fish from a seller without confirming. this goes for tank size, hardiness, compatibility, "reef safe", adult size, etc.

 

[basser1]

I'm wondering if the recent "deepwater coral beautys" are more reef safe?

http://www.liveaquaria.com/diversden/ItemDisplay.cfm?c=2733+3&ddid=89332

 

[timdam]

never trust information about fish from a seller without confirming. this goes for tank size, hardiness, compatibility, "reef safe", adult size, etc.

thanks lisa. that's why i'm here confirming with you guys. Cuz i trust yall more

 

[snorvich]

never trust information about fish from a seller without confirming. this goes for tank size, hardiness, compatibility, "reef safe", adult size, etc.

Very well put. Sellers have agendas, RC folks do not.

 

[Patriot54]

+1 to what everyone has said

 

[iamwrasseman]

i work for a lfs and let me tell you this from experience . if you don't want to break your entire tank down and remove mostly everything in order to catch an unwanted fish please pass on this guy . many times i have had to catch a fish in a complete full blown reef tank that was being decimated by a "reef safe" fish that turned out not to be reef safe . after hundreds lost from a fish that has been closet eating until the owner stumbles on identifying the culprit . then they had to hire me to come over for hours and break down the reef and remove the fish . yes i use traps and also quarter off the fish but you still end up with tons of time and lost corals due to such a fish . it may be easy in your situation and please disregard this if so but if you have a complicated reef tank filled with many expensive corals and lots of rock then please take heed in my words as it isn't worth the expense and effort when there are so many fish out there that will never harm a coral in your tank . i would suggest that you research your fish carefully and plan out the entire stock list before any impulse purchases get you in trouble . best of luck to ya !

 

[timdam]

i work for a lfs and let me tell you this from experience . if you don't want to break your entire tank down and remove mostly everything in order to catch an unwanted fish please pass on this guy . many times i have had to catch a fish in a complete full blown reef tank that was being decimated by a "reef safe" fish that turned out not to be reef safe . after hundreds lost from a fish that has been closet eating until the owner stumbles on identifying the culprit . then they had to hire me to come over for hours and break down the reef and remove the fish . yes i use traps and also quarter off the fish but you still end up with tons of time and lost corals due to such a fish . it may be easy in your situation and please disregard this if so but if you have a complicated reef tank filled with many expensive corals and lots of rock then please take heed in my words as it isn't worth the expense and effort when there are so many fish out there that will never harm a coral in your tank . i would suggest that you research your fish carefully and plan out the entire stock list before any impulse purchases get you in trouble . best of luck to ya !

thanks wrasseman. i won't get any angels thanks to yall's advice. by the way, what kinda wrasse is that in your avatar?

 

[iamwrasseman]

its a choati leopard wrasse that i had but am having difficulties finding any more .dont let me totally stop you from purchasing angels but rather be very sure in what you purchase if you think you can catch him easily . if you have a highly stocked reef tank then i would suggest staying away from them only because of how difficult it can be sometimes .

 

[savageAJC]

MY coral beauty hasnt nipped at any of my corals, i have clams zoos lps shrooms and a few (very few) sps lol

but then again my cb is weird, he doesnt like any type of macro or dried seaweed i put in the tankj, he LOVES krill, mysis etc.
but has been a model citizen ( he is a bully though) so maybe not model citizen haha

also, ive had to move my tank twice..i have never ever been able to catch him.. even with water drained he vanishes....??

 

[timmybenz]

I have had good luck with mine. Always niping at the rocks but not the coral

 

[Sheol]

Caveat Emptor. As said in more words, above.
"Reef Safe" itself is a near useless term. My ocellaris clown is decidely UNreefsafe. None of my Centropyge have bothered corals much, though they took out Zoas ( except the ugly hitchhiker Zoas. Figures..). Don't take anything thing you here at a LFS without a lot of salt..

Matthew

 

[Sitarangi]

Aside from the occasional nip at my gorgonians, my CBA has been very tame. I feed mine twice daily NLS/F1 pellets, frozen mysis, brine, spirulina, and other various foods.

IMO there are many more colorful dwarfs that come to mind, I got mine for free from someone breaking down a tank but if I could go back i'd swap him out for something more eye-catching (like a eibli or flame).

 

[savageAJC]

ditto if i could i would trade mine for a flame or something else, especially with the addition of my purple tang..the cb just doesnt do it for me anymore

 

[ianglish]

It doesn't matter what responses you get here. You're going to get a bunch of people who have had them successfully in a reef tank, and a bunch of people who had them nip at everything in their reef.
Whether or not you get one depends on A) what coral & inverts you have in your reef and B) whether or not you're willing to risk what you currently have in that tank by putting a coral beauty in there.
Don't let other people's anecdotal evidence that they've had success with these fish be your deciding factor. The one you (may) purchase will have it's own personality may or may not go after your corals. It's all about the risk you're willing to take to get this fish into your reef tank.

^^^ this person is so right!!