Coral beauty not eating in qt with cupramine

Jberge60

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So I set up a 20g qt in a hurry 2-1/2 weeks ago when I had an ich outbreak. I've never qt'd any fish until now but I always will from here on out. I have 2 clowns, 2 chromis and the coral beauty in the qt. I haven't seen the cb eat in just about 2 weeks. The copper has been at .5 for 18 days now and I've been battling ammonia with 25-50% wc's daily. I've had the cb for 2 months and he ate really well in the dt (frozen mysis and pellets) and would pick at the LR all day. He appears to still be healthy but swims towards the food and shows no interest. I'm worried about how long he can go like this. I'm assuming if I pull the copper he'd start eating again but I would like the treatment to be at least 3wks since I'm spending the time to go fallow. Idk what to do
 
The copper may supress the hunger. I would look for the sticky at the top of this section called TTM. Also, you say you are battling ammonia? Any amount can be deadly to fish.
 
Abandoning the cupramine treatment for TTM isn't really an option for me. Also I am very aware of the problems ammonia causes which is the reason for the wc's. I just wanted to state any possible contributing factors to get the best feedback.
 
18 days of copper at full dose is more than enough. You should do water changes and let the copper go down.

Butterflies and Angels are more sensitive to copper than other fishes. I never QT an Angle. For butterflies I dose up to .35 of cupramine for 2 weeks per instructions. You are going on 3 weeks.
 
Pellets, mysis and nori. Black tip, everything I've seen on RC says that 4 weeks of cupramine is ideal and seachems forum suggests 3wks despite what the bottle says. So I've been going with what I've read. I guess I could start bringing it down.
 
Totally understand.

IMO, if two weeks are not enough, the manufacturer would not have recommended it. I've never seen any evidence that 2 weeks are not enough at full dose.

IIRC, per Seachem tech, the effective dose for ich is 0.3 and not 0.5. They recommend 0.35 for Butterflies and Angels. Cupramine is effective as low as 0.2. I searched and read about it a year ago, when I QT butterflies.




Pellets, mysis and nori. Black tip, everything I've seen on RC says that 4 weeks of cupramine is ideal and seachems forum suggests 3wks despite what the bottle says. So I've been going with what I've read. I guess I could start bringing it down.
 
The copper may supress the hunger. I would look for the sticky at the top of this section called TTM. Also, you say you are battling ammonia? Any amount can be deadly to fish.

I have used TTM for my last several fish and they all ate immediately upon transfer. I would suggest doing this to ensure you've removed the parasites and their eggs. In my experience it seems to stress the fish very little.
 
Thanks black tip I will definitely remember that about the dosage in the future. I have cuprisorb coming tomorrow but in the mean time I can do a wc to bring it down. Do you think prazipro is a good idea while I have them in the qt or only for new fish?
 
On another note my female clown has these small pimple like bumps on her that started as a couple bigger looking pimples a few days.. I know it can't be ich but I'm not sure what to do about it if anything. I've been reading and can't find a clear answer. I guess just observe and not worry unless behavior changes?
 
Thanks black tip I will definitely remember that about the dosage in the future. I have cuprisorb coming tomorrow but in the mean time I can do a wc to bring it down. Do you think prazipro is a good idea while I have them in the qt or only for new fish?

I've never used cuprisorb. I always do water change. My QT is 20, and I do 5g change at a time. So, 5g water change every other day few times will bring both your ammonia and copper way down.

Although I read about people mixing PraziPro and cupramine, I've never done it myself. I do PraziPro, before I do cupramine. In your situation, I suggest to do 3-4 water changes over a week period. Give the fishes few days or a week to de-stress and eat, then dose Prazipro. Parazipro is an appetite suppressant, so in your case, I don't recommend using it until the fishes are eating well.
 
On another note my female clown has these small pimple like bumps on her that started as a couple bigger looking pimples a few days.. I know it can't be ich but I'm not sure what to do about it if anything. I've been reading and can't find a clear answer. I guess just observe and not worry unless behavior changes?

Post a photo. If it looks like cauliflower, it is probably Lymphocystis. It is viral and can't be cured. It shows on the fishes when they stressed, then goes away on its own. My clowns have it.
 
I can't seem to get a good pic of it but I don't think it looks like cauliflower. They're like tiny pimples and some have a whitehead. In spots it could kinda look like ich but from an angle I see the skin is raised like a bump. This clown is the one that got hit with the ich the worst but acts 100% better now, swimming and eating like a champ
 
Blacktip how do I post pics?

Two ways:

Upload it to you account here on the forum. Click on your login name on the top right, and figure it out from there.

Or, upload it to an external hose, photobucket, oneDrive, etc, then link it to your post.
 
Blacktip, I just uploaded a few to my profile but they kept coming through sideways even after I tried rotating the pic first but maybe you can still see what I'm talking about. I'm starting to wonder if it's some ich that wasn't killed so I lowered the copper to .35-.4 for the angel but I'm not removing anymore yet until I have a better idea of what's going on
 
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