coral snow do you use it

[rogerwilco357]

Well I have been reading alot of the threads and it seems alot of people use Coral snow from Zeo and Warner? what brand do you use if any? Also been having a PO4 problem and currently use gfo and carbon in the reactors but still no real improvement going to stir the sand and blow the rocks off again and do a 20% water change or should i do more on the 120 display tank and thinking of cleaning the sump again and skimmer what the heck might as well clean everything the sump is like 35 or 40 gallons ..I see alot of people use bio-pellets can you use the pellets and coral snow together? any intel is appreciated..
Roger

 

[xCry0x]

Be careful with stirring the sand bed, can release a lot of crap into the water column.

I would avoid using any kind of quick fix additive. If you have a sump you could add a small fuge onto that with macro. You could also just skim more and feed less for a few weeks and see if the po4 drops.

Would definitely blow off rocks when you do water changes. In my tank I have learned where the bulk of fish waste ends up so I can basically vacuum a few certain spots and get most of the gunk out of my DT. You have a bigger tank but the same probably holds true.

 

[dvanacker]

I use bio-pellets for NO3 and PO4....I also use a small amount of GFO and ROX carbon as well.

For cyano I use WarnerMarine Ultimate snow.....same as zeo coral snow it seems. I blow the rocks off and stir the very top portion of the sand once a week...after doing this I dose the snow. Its supposed to neutralize organic acids....what ever that means. Seems to work.

 

[robferrari]

I used zeovit coral snow and could not really notice any change one way or another. I thought it would help with a little cyano in the corner but didn't really make a difference. It does a better job of clearing up particulate matter floating in the water column. HTH

 

[robferrari]

I use bio-pellets for NO3 and PO4....I also use a small amount of GFO and ROX carbon as well.

For cyano I use WarnerMarine Ultimate snow.....same as zeo coral snow it seems. I blow the rocks off and stir the very top portion of the sand once a week...after doing this I dose the snow. Its supposed to neutralize organic acids....what ever that means. Seems to work.

I also dose coral snow after cleaning.

 

[dvanacker]

It took a month or more to rid my tank of cyano. Im fairly confident it was the snow as well because when I stoped the cyano came back and when i started again, again a month or so later it was gone again....nothing else changed in the mean time.

 

[Achilles18]

water change every other week, less feeding as well. I'm not a big fans of this cyano remover. I've used coral snow zeovit before but it doesn't make any diffirence at all, I ended up not using. I reg do 10g water change every other week, helps really a lot. corals can't stop from growing & I don't use carbon often, gfo run a bit & bunch of LR's in my sump as well san bed of caribic sea mud w/cheato. I think lots of flow in your tank also helps to clear off those cyano, basically point into diffirent direction. If you have wavemaker helps a lot too , i run nanowave box plus 3 powerheads on my 70gal. I get cyano but not everywhere in my tank.

 

[rogerwilco357]

So Darrell how often do you use the snow ? I do water changes every weekend till I can get the numbers down then will do them bi-weekly Now i also stir lightly the sand as I have a thin layer of sand not a deep one like an inch also blow the rocks then water change but still at .30 should i do the Snow treatment every water change or bi-weekly? I don't have the bio-pellets but will be getting that setup next if these water changes don't work ..by the way I also dose vodka now on week 7 and up to 2ml. daily .

 

[xCry0x]

Be careful with carbon dosing if you already run GFO & Carbon and have low nitrates. Can lead to bacterial blooms in the tank. When I was dosing vinegar I had cyano explode all over my sand bed for over a month. Quit dosing and within the next month it all faded.

A lot of these questions might be better suited to be asked in the reef chemistry forum.

 

[Allmost]

for use of coral snow, unless u are treating for cyano, dose once a week. it can increase KH, and it can also make SPS white if overdosed.

you can use up to 4 ml per 25 Gallon if needed.

I get best results dosing it in AM ...
its basically calcium carbonate and magnesium compunds, in micro meter size, it will attract and bond with AAs, and other organics, and bacteria and even some elements. it can be consumed by corals due to its size and corals being none selective eaters, and it can also make removal of such organics faster via skimming.

so dosing in AM, I THINK, that since most photosynthesis algae die off at night to some degree and release their N and P, dosing CS in AM time will bond to those free "organics" and give corals and skimmer a better chance of removing them, before the light comes on and algae starts taking them up again ...

 

[Allmost]

Be careful with carbon dosing if you already run GFO & Carbon and have low nitrates. Can lead to bacterial blooms in the tank. When I was dosing vinegar I had cyano explode all over my sand bed for over a month. Quit dosing and within the next month it all faded.

A lot of these questions might be better suited to be asked in the reef chemistry forum.

alot of ppl run GFO while carbon dosing.

cause most carbon sources and bacteria, remove N more efficiently than P.

if you overdose anything, its bad, but if you dose correct amounts, its can be very good too much carbon, will indeed cause bacteria bloom. I think what you have withnessed.

 

[v1...rotate]

for use of coral snow, unless u are treating for cyano, dose once a week. it can increase KH, and it can also make SPS white if overdosed.

you can use up to 4 ml per 25 Gallon if needed.

I get best results dosing it in AM ...
its basically calcium carbonate and magnesium compunds, in micro meter size, it will attract and bond with AAs, and other organics, and bacteria and even some elements. it can be consumed by corals due to its size and corals being none selective eaters, and it can also make removal of such organics faster via skimming.

so dosing in AM, I THINK, that since most photosynthesis algae die off at night to some degree and release their N and P, dosing CS in AM time will bond to those free "organics" and give corals and skimmer a better chance of removing them, before the light comes on and algae starts taking them up again ...

All very true points from my experiences as well. :thumbsup:

I agree... It is best dosed in the AM before your lights turn on. Give it an hour or so to dissolve and when the lights turn on, you will noticed the water is a lot clearer hence better light penetration for the corals. This can last a couple of days (depending feeding amounts/sand bed stirring etc).

 

[rogerwilco357]

thanks guys for all the information think i will be ordering that very soon..thanks again

 

[Keithcorals]

What is in coral snow?

 

[Preston7]

I would avoid using anything like this unless you absolutely have to.

You want to syphon as much cyano immediately after (or just befor) the lights turn off. This will remove the maximum amount of cyano from your tank. Do a water change. Repeat this process every day/few days until its all gone.

You also have to get your nutrients under control: good filtration and husbandry is key.

 

[rogerwilco357]

so ordered the stuff and should have been here today hopefully tomorrow..so coral snow will up the dkh?

and mods if you could move to the chemistry area that would be fine.seems a little technical for sps forum

 

[Bugger]

I use tow little fishes snow its like a brown jelly I think it does something

 

[rogerwilco357]

for cyano

for cyano

for use of coral snow, unless u are treating for cyano, dose once a week. it can increase KH, and it can also make SPS white if overdosed.

you can use up to 4 ml per 25 Gallon if needed.

I get best results dosing it in AM ...
its basically calcium carbonate and magnesium compunds, in micro meter size, it will attract and bond with AAs, and other organics, and bacteria and even some elements. it can be consumed by corals due to its size and corals being none selective eaters, and it can also make removal of such organics faster via skimming.

so dosing in AM, I THINK, that since most photosynthesis algae die off at night to some degree and release their N and P, dosing CS in AM time will bond to those free "organics" and give corals and skimmer a better chance of removing them, before the light comes on and algae starts taking them up again ...

So do you combine this snow and bak to make that cyano 5 min.cocktail? anyone using both zeo bak and the snow in a cocktail if so how long do you let them marinate? 5 min or more? applied after blowing the rocks off or after waterchange. Say blow the rocks off do water change then add the cocktail?

 

[samuelkl]

I mix snow and AA and give in morning or night after turkey basting the rocks, whenever I remember. I let it mix for a minute and throw it in. Bak I dose separately near the input of my biopellet reactor

 

[rogerwilco357]

what carbon source do you use?