Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)

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mr wilson
over on tomken and steels where the plastic store used to be ,wilkinson road.
theres new owners in there now.
went in to get some glue the other day.lots of custom work being done.
i think its father and son business.
i had no problem getting service for a walkin.

might be worth the try

vic
 
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mr.wilson said:
Glass takes two months and you don't have the flexibility of acrylic for holes etc. Acrylic is cheaper and I would have to make changes to the stand to support glass. In time we may add holes or other details. Once the glass is tempered, that isn't an option.
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why would you get a tempered sump? i figured you would just use plate glass. (it would take a week or 2 to be 100% on the silicone) but its not hard to drill holes in glass. (but its sure not as easy as acrylic)
 
Very nice Peter. I recently got my new skimmer online and haven't yet found the words to adequately explain to my wife my amazement with watching it break in. One of my favorite things about this thread, despite the scale of the project, is watching you "fish geek" out over the little things (e.g. skimmer bubbles, macro algae hitching a ride on a snail, etc.). :thumbsup:
 
swissgaurd said:
mr wilson
over on tomken and steels where the plastic store used to be ,wilkinson road.
theres new owners in there now.
went in to get some glue the other day.lots of custom work being done.
i think its father and son business.
i had no problem getting service for a walkin.

might be worth the try

vic
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I tried them. They said they could do it in one week, then two weeks later said it would take another 6 weeks because they picked up some big projects.

The problem with acrylic fabricators is the waiting list, not actual production time. They typically take 6-8 weeks in the slow season and longer in the high season. Some even lay off employees in the summer so the slow season is actually slow. There's one company that offers to trim off two weeks if you pay an extra 10%, but it still takes a month. It's a cash grab that slows down everyone roses orders. The first guy to have enough staff to get order out in 2-4 weeks year round will own the market.

The new manufacturer I went with (Midwest) was up to the challenge of getting it done in two weeks. If they pull it off they get my business. It isn't about the quick delivery date, it's about honest and reliable service.
 
dahenley said:
why would you get a tempered sump? i figured you would just use plate glass. (it would take a week or 2 to be 100% on the silicone) but its not hard to drill holes in glass. (but its sure not as easy as acrylic)
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I have built aquariums and sumps, but it isn't what I do. From a liability standpoint, I buy all of the equipment from specialty manufacturers. It is supposed to be faster, but that isn't always the case. From a liability standpoint, most glass aquarium manufacturers are required by their insurance companies to temper any glass panels that are drilled.

I have a full set of glass drills and have drilled several thousand holes in glass tanks. I've only broken 2 tanks doing it, and they were 10 gallon tanks with thin glass. Peters sump is a Swiss cheese of holes, and it needs to outlive both of us:)

Personally, I don't like tempering. It distorts the optics, sets back the build date by 2-4 weeks. Tempering alters the way glass flexes and can put added stress on seams. The tempering process often breaks the glass so it can really delay completion dates. It also adds about $125 to the cost of each panel.
 
swissgaurd said:
you probably did inquire , but scott at aquarium specialty builds some nice stuff
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Scott at Aquarium Specialty was a pleasure to deal with for the UV & PAR meters. Great prices and fast shipping. I noticed some custom acrylic work on their site, but didn't think of them for the sump. I don't think they do tanks, but I will look into it. I need a one stop shopping source so I save on shipping.
 
mr.wilson said:
I have built aquariums and sumps, but it isn't what I do. From a liability standpoint, I buy all of the equipment from specialty manufacturers. It is supposed to be faster, but that isn't always the case. From a liability standpoint, most glass aquarium manufacturers are required by their insurance companies to temper any glass panels that are drilled.

I have a full set of glass drills and have drilled several thousand holes in glass tanks. I've only broken 2 tanks doing it, and they were 10 gallon tanks with thin glass. Peters sump is a Swiss cheese of holes, and it needs to outlive both of us:)

Personally, I don't like tempering. It distorts the optics, sets back the build date by 2-4 weeks. Tempering alters the way glass flexes and can put added stress on seams. The tempering process often breaks the glass so it can really delay completion dates. It also adds about $125 to the cost of each panel.
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yes it all does need to out live you guys because I'm still trying to convince Peter that I'm going to inherit this tank LOL now if I can only :blown: hahah
 
Unless something has happened to them they are in the main tank now. When I was there to see the tank about a month ago they were about half way down the long end of the L on the main viewing side on opossite sides of the same rock
 
createyourown said:
Whatever happened to these guys?
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I think they may have had a divorce??? or just a seperation. Everytime I'm at Peters they seem to have two of their own condos on opposite sides of the tank. Although they have always had a love hate relationship so maybe they will come back together. Sooo days of our lives.
 
I was wondering if I could make a request of you Peter. I know that you have been hesitant of sharing the amount of money you have spent on this project which I respect. But I think part of the education of other hobbiest is just how much reaccuring cost is associated with keeping a tank of this magnitude. What is the point of swallowing a huge pill when it comes to upfront cost to have the tank suffer due to longterm cost.

I am specificly interested in the so called "carbon footprint" of your tank. I was wondering if you would be willing to share the amount of power consumed over a month by your tank. I think that regardless of wether or not you are a global warming believer or not ocean acidification is a real danger to the future of wild reefs and struggle with the real contribution or hobby makes to carbon emmitions.

I understand if you are unwilling to share you power usage number as well as the fact that this number will change as the build come closer to completion (yay lighting).
Brian
 
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Brian I know your question is for Peter, yet I feel the need to comment I hope you don't mind. If your saying the hobby of reef aquariums is a " real contributor" to the carbon emissions of the world I really doubt you can walk and chew gum at the same time. I would bet dollars to doughnuts that the total carbon foot print of every reef tank in the world added together for one year would not equal one hour of the carbon foot print of Las Vegas. The suggestion that Peter and fellow reefers are harming the plant is absurd the plant needs more reefers not less. Mike
 
mr.wilson said:
I set up the RK2 skimmer in a temporary spot until our sump gets in later this month. . .

I am using the smaller 300mg ozonizer for now. It's the unit intended for the MARS system.
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Looks like great output for only 2 days in. When I set up our RK2 25PE it took several weeks to settle down and produce a steady foam head.

With the ozone, are you looking for it to improve skimmer productivity or to maintain a target ORP level? For our tank it seemed to be an either/or decision. I experimented with various ozonizer output settings and airflow and observed the best skimmer output with the ozone dialed way back to < 100mg output and only 2 to 3 scfh airflow. I chose to optimize for skimmer efficiency, but the tradeoff is that tank ORP never goes much above 330.
 
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