nineball
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Thanks it was a pleasure meeting your family as well. Cool snail. I have to admit I am fasinated with my pink pimp snail. He adds real character to the tank environment.
Peter
Coral Tank from Canada (1350gal Display Tank)
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Thanks it was a pleasure meeting your family as well. Cool snail. I have to admit I am fasinated with my pink pimp snail. He adds real character to the tank environment.
Peter
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Peter,
One of the things that I am interested in is the size of the mars systems. While I think that they are great and the things that you have done to them are very interesting. The concern/ question is is that each one of the mars bars as you have called them is one system is the plan that each time you add something into the system it resets the clock for everything in system.
My assumption is that although there are multiple tanks they have a common water supply and that if you introduce a fish with a parasite into the tank it may effect a fish that is getting reddy to make the jump into the big pond as it were and as such being introduced int the main tank.
If I am missing something please enlighten me!!!
One of the things that I am interested in is the size of the mars systems. While I think that they are great and the things that you have done to them are very interesting. The concern/ question is is that each one of the mars bars as you have called them is one system is the plan that each time you add something into the system it resets the clock for everything in system.
My assumption is that although there are multiple tanks they have a common water supply and that if you introduce a fish with a parasite into the tank it may effect a fish that is getting reddy to make the jump into the big pond as it were and as such being introduced int the main tank.
If I am missing something please enlighten me!!!
nineball
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Good questions all........
First, I have learned that some of the procedures for acquiring and preparing fish for the display tank are being established with some of these concerns driving our stocking behaviour. For example our current plan calls for 6-8 weeks of isolation before any introductions into the main display tank. We have further decided that our purchasing profile will be to buy fish and or coral from the best suppliers we can find in very large batches. In other words we are planning to empty the Mars/Wilson Bars completely before ordering more.
Second, any fish with behavioural problems will be moved into a long term setting which will be in a reserved bank of Wilson tanks set aside for that purpose.
Third, any hint of physical problems (disease, injury etc) will be immediate removal to a dedicated hospital tank separated from all other systems. This ICU will have all its own equipment and supplies for that purpose only. After treatment has been fully administered the fish or coral will be moved back to the holding area for a further waiting period before introduction into the display tank.
Fourth, although the present configuration has each Wilson Bar as a separate unit sharing sump/reactors filters etc., it is possible to isolate any individual tank for a short period of time to remove the impacted animal without affecting the other inhabitants in the unit while it is cleaned and 'refreshed' for normal use. We know that this is a better practice than the majority of hobbyists can enjoy as most new inhabitants all go into the same holding tank with no ability to separate the fish during the holding period. It is less stressful for the animals and our limited experience so far is suggesting that going from separate holding tanks to the large open environment appears to minimize aggression and fear. Not totally sure why but that seems to be the operative psychology for the new arrivals.
Fifth, we are planning to use LED lighting for the majority of tanks which will allow us to adjust any individual tank to the best circumstance for its inhabitants. This we think will also be true for the flow as we think we can control it down to the individual tank if we had to.
Sixth, thanks to Mr. Wilson's excellent planning skills and now Chago's remarkable ability and knowledge of basic water management services we have a greatly improved system being implemented to ensure regular water changes are very easy to manage for the Wilson Bars as well as fully automated water top off as well.
Finally I am not suggesting that we will be 100% insulated from the unexpected but I do think we have established a much higher bar for best practices than is the case today in a majority of cases in this hobby.
Peter
nineball
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Hey Peter, been lurking here for a bit. Excellent build. This picture was too nice not to fix up. If anyone has any pics they need fixed let me know.
I hope everyone is watching this because this is exactly how to get invited into the inner cabinet on this thread. That is great work Shift_9k. You could bring a great deal of value to some of the products of this thread. Please keep lurking as we can certainly use your skills down the road. Well done!!!
and thank you,
Peter
nineball
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Nope Elijaher, fish don't jump in this tank as that would suggest they were not happy. There was definitely jumping behaviour in the Mars bars but nothing in the display tank. I guess I am feeding them too well....... or maybe its the knowledge that the whole world is watching.
Peter
Shift_9k
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No prob Peter, its Damen btw. The camera you're actually using is pretty good. Makes this end far easier. Looking forward to more work.
Ya when I was their I questioned that as well, but I didn't say anything because I knew you and MR. Wilson already had a plan for that. Buying fish at once and only buying again once the Mars are empty is the best plan. And for the fish with poor behaviour. My 180 can be there prison, I did mention I love aggressive species.
Speaking of this all, have you and MR. Wilson talked about your next delivery of fish? or are corals next on the list?
nineball
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Perhaps one more cleaning crew for the tank but no more wildlife after that until the systems are all ready. Although I checked the RO/DI units and I am still getting 000 out the number in has jumped to 68. Our new units should be very welcome and timely. :thumbsup::wavehand::thumbsup:
Peter
nineball
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I could shoot RAW but the file sizes get to be huge. If we do any more of this I will PM you with the source files in the cloud.
Thanks again Damen,
Peter
nineball
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a simple question
a simple question
Can anyone tell me why occasionally my six starfish all head to the sides of the tank and rise to the waters edge at the top as if on cue. There does not appear to be any event, time of day or consistent circumstance that I can identify to account for the behavior.
Is there a simple explanation?
Peter
a simple question
Can anyone tell me why occasionally my six starfish all head to the sides of the tank and rise to the waters edge at the top as if on cue. There does not appear to be any event, time of day or consistent circumstance that I can identify to account for the behavior.
Is there a simple explanation?
Peter
dave.m
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1). Have you tested for stray voltage? I'm thinking of some event that would make them all want to get out of the water, or at least away from the substrate.nineball said:
2). Is there a TV anywhere near the tank? If so, what programs are on when they climb the sides? Perhaps they are trying to get a better view.
Dave.M
hahaaha I think number 2 sounds more realistic then number 1. Or maybe there the look out like the star fish in finding nemo.
I've been told they climb to the water surface when starving to eat from the bacterial microfilm that is on the water surface, so maybe your sand is to clean for that many starfish. Used to have 3 and they did the same (always together as if on cue), gave 2 away and the last one never showed this behaviour again afterwards.
nineball
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Good call. This makes a lot of sense because the sand is sifted and raked completely twice a week and it is very clean. As you put it possibly too clean. I am not going to rake the sand for a week and see what happens. Also I have a few snails exhibiting the same behaviour at the moment. I have been leaving the lights off for the last few days to kill off some brown algae but I don't think this is a factor. I put the lights back on for the moment as the tank is being cleaned as I type.
Peter
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