So I am thinking my male clown has cotton mouth. Has had it for nearly 2 weeks. Treated with pima fix and it went away twice after 4 days. It's been 4 days on the third treatment and it's still there. Gonna finish out this treatment and do the water change. He doesn't have clamped fins and isn't gasping for air and other than the white growth on his mouth seems perfectly happy and normal. My question is, is there a scrub I can use or is it OK to peel the fungus off? Would that cause more harm than good? I've seen online that it's ok but it still seems like that could cause issues to me. Thoughts?
Cotton mouth on my clown?
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ReefSmarts
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I would try a different fungus method of the one you are using is no longer effective. Seachem has a couple different options for fighting fungus. Also a picture might help with getting responses so we can get a visual of what you are talking about.
ThRoewer
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It's probably because you posted this in the wrong forum section - you should repost this in the Fish Disease Treatment section.
You should also add pictures as they are vital to a proper diagnosis.
addictedreefer
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Is the male compulsively cleaning the rocks with his mouth? All of my clowns do this prior to spawning and it gives them what appears to be cotton mouth for a day or so -- in reality, I think it is just crushed aragonite rock dust. Just a thought.
I did and got nothing. My pics are to big on here
no none of that
I've just switched over to copper power a week ago and hasn't done anything. Fresh water dipped and nothing. Both now have it. Looks like a little white goatee on my female
Dkuhlmann
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Lots of them on the Reef Fish forum too.
I know it's fungal. Have read and was told the copper power will work.
Is it not on a clown fish? I've posted in the Fish Disease Treatment section as well with no replys. So maybe that's Ann issue you should be concerned with as well. They're being treated in a hospital tank so it won't affect my qt or dt at all so idk what the issue is. Lots of criticism and snark remarks with no possible solutions or help. Probably done here. Shorter ride then I expected.
Dkuhlmann
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There's usually more people to help on the disease forum but i'm guessing they are on vacation? Copper won't have any affect on it at all There is lots of bad info being passed around mostly from the LFS level. Then people like you come here and hear something totally different. I'm sure it's confusing. Sulfur might treat fungal but copper won't.
I'm with you though, shouldn't matter where it's posted as long as it's in a part of the site that makes sense. Don't take it hard just say screw it and carry on. Too much good you can get from this site.
There's usually more people to help on the disease forum but i'm guessing they are on vacation? Copper won't have any affect on it at all There is lots of bad info being passed around mostly from the LFS level. Then people like you come here and hear something totally different. I'm sure it's confusing. Sulfur might treat fungal but copper won't.
I'm with you though, shouldn't matter where it's posted as long as it's in a part of the site that makes sense. Don't take it hard just say screw it and carry on. Too much good you can get from this site.
The bottle itself says it'll treat fungus. I'm gonna try the pima fix again. Should I completely re setup the hospital tank due to the copper power being in there or would the copper not do anything to the pima fix. If the pima fix doesn't work I will give sulfur a look. Thanks
ThRoewer
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If you haven't done already you may want to look into this article: How to Deal with Marine Fungus in the Saltwater Aquarium
Here is an excerpt from it:
"...
Anti-Fungal Medications
There are many anti-fungal medications available including malachite green and formalin "“ salt may also be an effective treatment for some fungal infections. When treating your fish, make sure to remove any activated carbon from your aquarium filter and follow the dosing instructions carefully. If the infection is particularly stubborn, you may need to use potassium permanganate "“ this product can be toxic in water with a high pH, so use this product very carefully. Below you will find a list of popular anti-fungal medications as well as tips for using them in your tank:
PrimaFix "“ This medication is specifically designed to treat cotton-like fungal growths, both internally and externally. PrimaFix is made using active ingredients derived from the West Indian Bay Tree (Pimenta racemosa) and it is considered to be all-natural and very safe for fish. This medication will not discolor your tank water or have a negative effect on beneficial bacteria "“ it can also help to prevent bacteria from becoming resistant to medication. In cases of extreme fungal infections, this medication can be used with MelaFix to help your fish heal quickly.
MelaFix "“ This medication is made from extracts taken from the Tea Tree (Melaleuca) and it is particularly effective against strains of fungus that have become resistant to typical medications. MelaFix treats things like tail rot, fin rot, ulcers, mouth fungus, and other infections in as little as 4 days. This medication won't affect corals or invertebrates "“ it can even be used to treat parasitic flatworms.
KanaPlex "“ This medication is made with kanamycin and it is safe for treating a variety of bacterial and fungal diseases in marine fish, even internal infections. KanaPlex is absorbed by fish through their skin so it is even effective in cases where your fish refuse to eat. This medication won't affect your beneficial bacteria and it can be filtered out when you are done using a carbon filter.
Seachem Focus "“ This medication is specifically designed to treat internal infections in marine fish. Focus can be used alone or mixed with other medications to make your fish more likely to take them in food. This medication can be used for freshwater or marine fish.
Methylene Blue "“ This medication is designed to attack superficial fungal infections and it is a good alternative when your fish are sensitive to other medications like Malachite Green. Methylene Blue can also be used on fish eggs to kill egg fungus and to prevent certain fungal infections.
The best way to deal with fungus in the saltwater aquarium is to maintain high water quality so it does not become a problem. Remember, fungal spores are present in all aquariums and they are generally not harmful to fish under normal conditions. If the water quality in your tank drops, however, or your fish become stressed you may have problems with fungal infections
..."
Here is an excerpt from it:
"...
Anti-Fungal Medications
There are many anti-fungal medications available including malachite green and formalin "“ salt may also be an effective treatment for some fungal infections. When treating your fish, make sure to remove any activated carbon from your aquarium filter and follow the dosing instructions carefully. If the infection is particularly stubborn, you may need to use potassium permanganate "“ this product can be toxic in water with a high pH, so use this product very carefully. Below you will find a list of popular anti-fungal medications as well as tips for using them in your tank:
PrimaFix "“ This medication is specifically designed to treat cotton-like fungal growths, both internally and externally. PrimaFix is made using active ingredients derived from the West Indian Bay Tree (Pimenta racemosa) and it is considered to be all-natural and very safe for fish. This medication will not discolor your tank water or have a negative effect on beneficial bacteria "“ it can also help to prevent bacteria from becoming resistant to medication. In cases of extreme fungal infections, this medication can be used with MelaFix to help your fish heal quickly.
MelaFix "“ This medication is made from extracts taken from the Tea Tree (Melaleuca) and it is particularly effective against strains of fungus that have become resistant to typical medications. MelaFix treats things like tail rot, fin rot, ulcers, mouth fungus, and other infections in as little as 4 days. This medication won't affect corals or invertebrates "“ it can even be used to treat parasitic flatworms.
KanaPlex "“ This medication is made with kanamycin and it is safe for treating a variety of bacterial and fungal diseases in marine fish, even internal infections. KanaPlex is absorbed by fish through their skin so it is even effective in cases where your fish refuse to eat. This medication won't affect your beneficial bacteria and it can be filtered out when you are done using a carbon filter.
Seachem Focus "“ This medication is specifically designed to treat internal infections in marine fish. Focus can be used alone or mixed with other medications to make your fish more likely to take them in food. This medication can be used for freshwater or marine fish.
Methylene Blue "“ This medication is designed to attack superficial fungal infections and it is a good alternative when your fish are sensitive to other medications like Malachite Green. Methylene Blue can also be used on fish eggs to kill egg fungus and to prevent certain fungal infections.
The best way to deal with fungus in the saltwater aquarium is to maintain high water quality so it does not become a problem. Remember, fungal spores are present in all aquariums and they are generally not harmful to fish under normal conditions. If the water quality in your tank drops, however, or your fish become stressed you may have problems with fungal infections
..."
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