bigmatt1992
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could we be on the virge of a decent session. right now we are 10-5 grapfruit league with a .733 pct. could this finaly be the year.
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bigmatt1992
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bigmatt1992
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they havent started this good in spring training in years. and there pitching is looking solid they have some battles going for starting out feild postions this might be a good year.
cloakerpoked
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Just means they have nothing to lose by winning now. The Yankees are playing their 20-40 guys to figure out which ones to keep on the active roster, and which to send down...Pirates are already playing the starters. They'll suck this year...just like they did last year...and the one before, and the one before that, and well, you get the idea. On the bright side, this season will be the 17th straight losing season, an MLB record 
Tswifty
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The Pirates problem reaches back to their minor league system. They simply take too long moving players through their system. Teams without big budgets can't afford to go out and purchase top "MLB proven" talent. So they need to rely on a constant crop of young talent moving through their system.
I don't know how their farm teams fared last year, but they used to win their divisions or finish near the top every year. Sure having successful farm teams is nice, and it says something about the talent you have in your system... but wouldn't you rather have a .500 farm team and a winning pro club?
I don't know how their farm teams fared last year, but they used to win their divisions or finish near the top every year. Sure having successful farm teams is nice, and it says something about the talent you have in your system... but wouldn't you rather have a .500 farm team and a winning pro club?
bigmatt1992
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You guys of now FAITH lol. i dont think its going to be a great season just a .500 season thats all im looking for . WE WILL SEE.
cloakerpoked
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For what they signed them for, I can't say it wasn't a bad gamble. You figure, people may have laughed at the first players signed from the Dominican Republic at one point too...now look at them.
"The Pirates problem reaches back to their minor league system. They simply take too long moving players through their system. Teams without big budgets can't afford to go out and purchase top "MLB proven" talent. So they need to rely on a constant crop of young talent moving through their system.
I don't know how their farm teams fared last year, but they used to win their divisions or finish near the top every year. Sure having successful farm teams is nice, and it says something about the talent you have in your system... but wouldn't you rather have a .500 farm team and a winning pro club?"
This is part of the problem, but not the whole thing by any means. One of the things that the Rays had so much success with was drafting top tier talent with their high 1st round picks, and then signing them. The Pirates have always been afraid to take the risk, since high round talent means high round money, so they took guys who would've normally fallen into the 20's, paid them accordingly, then sat around scratching their heads when it didn't pan out. The trades that Littlefield made were sometimes head scratchers too...anyone remember the Aramis Ramirez for Bobby Hill deal? Who's Bobby Hill you may ask? Exactly. Of course, how can you be competitive in a league where your team makes less than 1/6th of the New York Yankees. A-rod and CC Sabethia make more than the entire Pirates team by a pretty fair margin. Of course, they could probably beat the Pirates by themselves with the other 7 guys sitting in the dugout, so maybe they're worth the money.
ooo by no means am I laughing at the players. I'll have to search for a link to the video. The two players had no experience at all...havent even seen a baseball before...and are throwing 91+. Remember when Jagr came to the losing pens? They won the first year he played. Just saying desperate measures call for desperate actions. Win or lose the games at PNC are one of the best parts about summer. (and the fireworks) haha
bigmatt1992
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I Been to 5 diffrent mlb parks and seen pictures of alot more PNC park is by far the best park in the mlb and it makes every game worth it. this summer we should have a reef central night at the park. ( throwing that out there )
