Crosshatch trigger 911 HELP

manny532

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So I bought a crosshatch trigger about 5 months ago back in november. When I bought him he was only eating ghost shrimp and was pretty pale. I made a special blend of shrimp, scallop, atlantic salmon, squid, octopus and clam. He ate that right up and ate like a pig while in qt. Coloration got beautiful. He wouldn't eat anything else though so I decided to thaw his food and put small cut up pieces of nori and pellets in it. The punk not only tried it and spit it out but he went on a food strike for about 3 weeks. He would only get the cube in his mouth and spit it out. After about 3 weeks he started eating again. I would hand feed him roughly 2 average size cubes of my special blend 3 to 4 times a day. Sometimes he would even eat more because after he was done with his food he would go for the bigger chunks that was meant for is other tank mates. Well, I made a mistake and my fishes ended up with flukes. After doing plenty of reading on prazipro i treated my main tank. Well, between the prazi and the fact i was dosing my tank with vitamin c and having to cut my skimmer uv light carbon purigen and gfo my tank clarity went to crap, got super cloudy after 5 days of treating with prazi i did a 60 gallon water change on my 225 gallon with 100gallon sump, ran skimmer uv etc for 3 days. Water cleared up somewhat but not crystal clear as it was in the beginning. Redosed prazi for 3 more days but i just couldn't stand the white milky water and my fishes all started breathing hard so i did another 60 gallon water change and ran skimmer uv etc etc all over again. Water cleared up a enough to the point where i can see my fish through the water but still looks cloudy as heck.

Since before i realized it was flukes until now its been roughly A MONTH (30 DAYS) since my trigger has even looked at food. For these 30 days not only has he not touched or looked at any food but he only hides in 1 of two places wedged up in the rocks. He has lost coloration and looks more pale than when i originally purchased him. His belly still looks fat but i'm super worried this won't be for much longer. I even tried offering clams on a shell and dropping them right in front of him. He will look at them then look at me as if saying no thank you. I plan on going to my lfs later and buying a few dollars worth of ghost shrimp. I don't want him to die, what else can i do. His tank mates are all eating and look good. nobody is bothering him, i don't understand.

tank info:
225 gallon with 100 gallon sump (sump holds on average about 75-80 gallons)
tank mates include
achilles tang 4"
black tang 2.5"
blonde naso 4"
lt tang 4"
blue hippo 1.5"
moorish idol 3.5"
blue face angel 4"
regal angel 4"
2 clowns
5 bartletts
6 fire gobies
stary bleny
pink spot goby
bullet goby
cleaner wrasse
neon goby
royal gramma
coral beauty
potters angel

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Future appears not so great..... If you think it might be flukes wouldn't it be a good idea to treat your tank? Even if you pull out the x hatch the other fish might have flukes still and then it might get reinfected. Either you fix the problem or bye bye expensive fish?
 
Future appears not so great..... If you think it might be flukes wouldn't it be a good idea to treat your tank? Even if you pull out the x hatch the other fish might have flukes still and then it might get reinfected. Either you fix the problem or bye bye expensive fish?

He is treating his tank.
 
Future appears not so great..... If you think it might be flukes wouldn't it be a good idea to treat your tank? Even if you pull out the x hatch the other fish might have flukes still and then it might get reinfected. Either you fix the problem or bye bye expensive fish?

I really think you should go back and reread the original post. He IS treating it with Prazipro :reading:
 
And in case you don't know the instructions dkhulmann, here they are from the site: A single treatment lasting 5-7 days is normally sufficient. Repeat as necessary, but no more than once every 3 to 5 days. And yes, I know others have used a modified version too but never a shorter time. Thanks again for clearing it up buddy. In case you could read he mentioned twice something about 3 days....
 
Well enjetek I suggest that you don't assume that we can read your mind. If you read YOUR post and what myself and bc1281 said made perfect sense. However you had something else in your head but it didn't make it to the text that you typed.

Get off yer high horse man. This is an open forum for DISCUSSION! No need to be "snippy" :debi:
 
Crosshatch trigger 911 HELP

How did you have to read my mind? The op stated that he only ran 3 day long treatments? I didn't see bcs' reply to my post (darn phone views) but he would get the same response as I did to yours. Incomplete treatment is garbage and that's why his fish are sick. When you guys are telling me he's treating his tank the answer is no he isn't because he's not even doing a correct treatment.

Do you think me stating I'm a millionaire and only making 100k is the same thing? If you have to get treatment for cancer and you do half a chemo session will that count as a full one? Come on guys.
 
Prazipro is only effective for 3 days and cloudy water caused by PP is more than likely caused by expired PP. Only other option available to you is force feeding your trigger. Although if you don't cure the flukes it won't matter. Para guard works on flukes too
 
I value your opinion dmorty but I still like to follow manufacturers instructions sometimes too. Almost like cupramine they recommend .5 but .3 is tolerated here. If the x hatch still has issues I would opt to go the recommended treatment length specified by Hikari since 3 days didn't cut it
 
Guys please... no fighting :| I did treat pp for 5 days as the instructions say from 5 to 7, then I did a water change ran skimmer uv purigen and carbon for 3 days then dosed pp again but couldn't do the second dose for 5 to 7 as they started breathing profusely and I could barely see them through the cloudy water so I cut the second treatment to 3 days and did another water. Yesterday I actually tried feeding my trigger with a thin piece of wood they serve shrimp skewers with and a piece of my food blend at the tip and literally held it in front of his mouth as if feeding an eel or what not. He literally just looked at it then me and he flipping turned around and have me his tail. When I took the food out he turned back around as he was. None of them are really showing signs of flukes anymore though. No more darting, shaking of their heads twitching finds etc. It's been maybe a 8 10 days since my last water change and turning back on all my filtration. My water parameters are all good atm, fish are pretty much all eating looking good, it's just my trigger. I really don't want to do anymore unnecessary treatments or other meds IF they aren't needed. If it's a must then so be it but I just find it odd that everyone has gone from signs of flukes and suppressed appetite then back to normal but my trigger still just hiding and refusing to eat. What else can I try other than to just wait it out?
 
No luck with like the large Hikari mysis shrimp (assuming it's a larger trig)? Tried any appropriate sized pellets like nls?
 
No luck with any kind of pellets or mysis. Literally the only thing I could get him to eat was my mix blend of stuff and since I'm running out I was thinking this time adding oysters and lobster tail to the blend. But trust me I've tried hikari seaweed pellets, spectrum pellets both small and large size, I've tried flakes. Heck even my blend he only went after the larger pieces. He's about 8 and a half inches.

As far as the lights, most the day I run a 30 watt 48" strip of leds. It's not very bright and the ends of the tank are pretty dim. The bright leds in the video I only turn on for about 2 3 hours a day or on weekends. I'll try leaving them off for now and just leave the 30 watt led strip. Any other tips?
 
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