Cubed & Squared

[glaukos]

Love the progression pics bello!
That piece is indeed amazing and welldone for being able/skilled/etc to color it up so nicely!

How many years have you had the blue submarine?

 

[troubadour11]

AH-HAhahahahaha!!!!!!

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[Fishy 1]

AH-HAhahahahaha!!!!!!

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Troub that shirt has bello, Sahin and Biggles written all over it :lolspin: good find :thumbsup:

 

[Pife]

I just read through your entire thread. What a journey you have taken. Your collection of coral is outstanding. That last acro that you posted is a show stopper.

 

[Bello]

See he's still not accepting that his skills are envious. come on bello just accept the reality that your amazing at reef keeping.

Unfortunately, I'm going to prove you wrong in this post, sigh :worried:, read on...

Bello, things are looking good even with the dips. That coral is a stunner, even if it's a little off color right now.

Glad things are on the up and up.

Thanks Jon, that one's definitely my fave... The tank has yet to fully recover from the dips though and my latest debacle just made it more difficult :fun5:

Lots of cool updates though Bello. I'm loving the comparrison shots. I'll have to set up a few of mine like that over time as well. Once I get enough choice pieces that start to establish anyway... Keep it up though, the recovery looks well underway and things are going to sparkly and colorful sooner rather then later

Glad you like the comparison shots Troub. It helps to see how corals have progressed/regressed over time. Wish I had taken more shots of the other corals as well, could've stitched together more of these. I was hoping that I'd be done with spending money, but it looks like I'm gonna have to get sneaky soon

Those growth shots of that cool acro are awesome mate, the bottom left shot looks to be about the best pigment display, was that before the filthy little ARFW showed up Bello.
Since i'm going to show pics of my upcoming radical rock scape change as i do it i think the least you could do this weekend is take a few close top downs of some acros for us buddy.

How are the tanks looking overall to your eye in regards to finding the sweet spot with your nutrient balance mate, do you have a big snail population.

Well, biggles, I had to go on holiday for 4 days for another cousin's wedding. And came back to a mess. It's obviously your fault, how? Lemme explain...

Knowing that you like Flame angels, and because I HAVE to annoy you, I purchased one. It was happy in the tank, all good. Noticed a few days later that PE on a few corals was non existent. Then saw him nipping. Unfortunately, getting him out wasn't going to be easy. However, knowing that I HAD to leave for the damned wedding, I went through with it and got him. I then noticed, that he had been quite a busy little $#$#%$.

Anyways, when I got back, a lot of corals had STN'd. I'm theorizing that his nipping compromised the slime coat on the acros, thereby inviting STN and green boring algae, which I can plainly see now......... :furious:

My filtration is also not up to PAR at the moment, and I've placed an order for the new All In One biopellets. Should be getting that in a couple weeks, and I'll be back to carbon dosing.... And I forgot to mention, I also got a decent outbreak of cyano...

Now you see how it's all your fault ...

Love the progression pics bello!
That piece is indeed amazing and welldone for being able/skilled/etc to color it up so nicely!

How many years have you had the blue submarine?

Thanks Mike, thanks to the episode above, I was forced to frag it into 3 pieces. One RTN'd this morning, 2 seem ok.....for now.

I've had the submarine from July 2003, bought him as a 3 inch fish. Hasn't gotten that much bigger, but he's been around for ages!!

I just read through your entire thread. What a journey you have taken. Your collection of coral is outstanding. That last acro that you posted is a show stopper.

Thanks for reading through my mess, Pife .

My collection of corals WAS ok, but not after the damned dips. The tank looks pretty drab right now, from the front. And I've had to frag the yellow acro, which really hurt. I don't think I have too many nice ones, and that was the only one that I'd consider remarkable, so I'm just praying that it pulls through the next few months.

Can't really do any pics at the moment since, I'm busying fragging out the STN'd pieces and repositioning them... like I needed another screw up .

 

[Fishy 1]

Bello, bello, bello :facepalm: I hope you get it back on track soon mate and what a bugger to have the angle go devil on you

we all learn so way I suppose :lmao:

 

[markalot]

Sorry Bello, hang in there. I had a Flame Angel when I first got into the hobby. Favorite fish, but not compatible and I had to take it back to the LFS.

I actually updated my thread for the first time in months. I need to get better at it. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22840028#post22840028

 

[martinphillip03]

I bet Biggles is now telling you to buy a parrotfish

Marty

 

[biggles]

I bet Biggles is now telling you to buy a parrotfish

Marty

Actually i was leaning more towards a black tip reef shark Marty, Kevin kept one in next doors salt pool while they were away on a cruise but things went bad when they came home early and went for a swim. Kevin and i kept a low profile watching from his tree until the ambulances and Police had left. He wants to try a school of Humboldt squid the next time they go on holidays.......

As for you Bello me little buddy i already went into the specifics of why you and i have so much trouble keeping a reef in my own diary of acro destruction (journal). In a nutshell you're an idiot like me.

Anyways, when I got back, a lot of corals had STN'd. I'm theorizing that his nipping compromised the slime coat on the acros, thereby inviting STN and green boring algae, which I can plainly see now.........

Only i am qualified to theorize and make stuff up so cut that out right now. You don't have the imagination to make up scientific data like me so just stick to what you bloody know which is stuff all if you anything like me.
'compromised the slime', 'thereby inviting STN and green boring algae'.........
Listen Bello, that fish was just a dumb fish that munched on your acros, you make him sound like some super villain. Btw don't think i don't know you were going for a big victory in our tank battle by trying the flame. I missed a royal gramma for $100 last week by one stinking day. Still haven't seen one for sale in a shop in 18 months - bloody joke it is.
Bio pellets and booze hey........... you do whatever it takes to get back in the game mate, i hope these techniques work for you buddy. Just don't make a bad situation worse - be careful with the jelly beans and margaritas is what i'm saying ! :facepalm: If anything weird happens stop those new things straight away - don't umm and arr about it like you and i do while things get worse lol.

You know i'll do anything i can to help you get things sorted out mate, i also know there's a lot of experienced reefers on RC who will be here for you as well with advice on any techniques you want to try on the system to get the water healthy again.

I can't believe you'd try to blame things on me............

Between you and i - do you reckon Sahin is going to come back with some disgustingly awesome pics........ i don't trust him one bit although no one comes close to you for filthy sly acro purchases tbh mate. I'm going to see how long it takes to kill a seri if i see one for sale ever, that should cheer you up as i once again do my nut watching it just die for no reason :crazy1:

 

[Fishy 1]

prepare for some fishy advice

prepare for some fishy advice

Actually i was leaning more towards a black tip reef shark Marty, Kevin kept one in next doors salt pool while they were away on a cruise but things went bad when they came home early and went for a swim. Kevin and i kept a low profile watching from his tree until the ambulances and Police had left. He wants to try a school of Humboldt squid the next time they go on holidays.......

biggles has kevin tried to find a girlfriend? i think it might do him so good and keep him out of less trouble:love1:

As for you Bello me little buddy i already went into the specifics of why you and i have so much trouble keeping a reef in my own diary of acro destruction (journal). In a nutshell you're an idiot like me.

hehehe count me as the third idiot :lolspin:

Only i am qualified to theorize and make stuff up so cut that out right now. You don't have the imagination to make up scientific data like me so just stick to what you bloody know which is stuff all if you anything like me.
'compromised the slime', 'thereby inviting STN and green boring algae'.........
Listen Bello, that fish was just a dumb fish that munched on your acros, you make him sound like some super villain. Btw don't think i don't know you were going for a big victory in our tank battle by trying the flame. I missed a royal gramma for $100 last week by one stinking day. Still haven't seen one for sale in a shop in 18 months - bloody joke it is.

i agree that biggles is to be the only one to use scientific words.......even if he has no idea what they mean:bounce1:. bello has a super villain fish:eek1:hes in trouble now:lolspin:

Bio pellets and booze hey........... you do whatever it takes to get back in the game mate, i hope these techniques work for you buddy. Just don't make a bad situation worse - be careful with the jelly beans and margaritas is what i'm saying !. If anything weird happens stop those new things straight away - don't umm and arr about it like you and i do while things get worse lol.

They say don't drink and drive and i'm pretty sure that drunk bacteria isn't such a good idea bello:fun2:

You know i'll do anything i can to help you get things sorted out mate.

Biggles that is the biggest load of garbage i've ever heard, the only thing you'll do is give him good ribbing when he stuffs up:beer:

i also know there's a awesome and experienced reefer on RC called Fishy and he's helped me a lot, he'll will be here for you as well with advice on any techniques you want to try on the system to get the water healthy again.

Gee thanks for the kind words biggles and yes i am more than happy to share my extensive experience with you bello, just ask away

I can't believe you'd try to blame things on me............

biggles this is bello were talking about...he's the king of sneak and blaming:facepalm:

Between you and i - do you reckon Sahin is going to come back with some disgustingly awesome pics........ i don't trust him one bit

I think your right there buddy.

although no one comes close to you for filthy sly acro purchases tbh mate.

I agree with that even more.

 

[Bello]

Sorry Bello, hang in there. I had a Flame Angel when I first got into the hobby. Favorite fish, but not compatible and I had to take it back to the LFS.

I actually updated my thread for the first time in months. I need to get better at it. http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=22840028#post22840028

I'm already subscribed to your thread Mark :thumbsup:. Yeah too bad about the Flame, they're gorgeous... I tried to sell him off, but now he's just chilling in fuge, where he can't wreak anymore havoc .

Bello, bello, bello. I hope you get it back on track soon mate, and what a bugger to have the angle go devil on you.

we all learn so way I suppose

You know what they say, when you play with fire, you become a Human Kebab, minus the seasoning .

I bet Biggles is now telling you to buy a parrotfish

Marty

Remember his neighbours Parrot? He's working on procuring a scuba suit for him, and then dumping him into my tank .

Biggles and Fishy, thanks guys, I know that when I'm down, I can always count on you #$#%$# to kick me in the nuts :lol:

Anyways, I won't trying out the jellybeans all at once, just a little. Over the last 4 years, I've had more experience with carbon dosing than without, so I doubt I'll end up doing anything more stupid than normal.

And finally to top off this crummy week, I noticed RTN on my Pink Hyacinthus, on ONE branch, and where was that branch??? Right in the bloody center, OBVIOUSLY!!! Couldn't risk losing the colony, so in the middle of the night, I was forced to chop it!!!!

Here's the pre chop pics, it's my biggest acro, and had doubled in size despite giving away frags......


https://flic.kr/p/nDjZWJ

https://flic.kr/p/nVGq8W

I'm now going to bury my head..... in sand.... and since there's no sand around...the toilet bowl :headwalls:

 

[markalot]

Thanks for following along. :celeb1: I will try and update a little more often, especially when I get a bigger tank.

So, are you going to show us those other tanks of yours?

 

[Bello]

Thanks for following along. :celeb1: I will try and update a little more often, especially when I get a bigger tank.

So, are you going to show us those other tanks of yours?

Could stay with the same thread or setup a build thread, either way, I'll be following :thumbsup:

I'd like to show those tanks, but they look like poo, since they're the hapless victims of my constant experimentation... pretty much covered in algae right now. Can't really work much on them until I sort out the main tank

 

[Fishy 1]

You know what they say, when you play with fire, you become a Human Kebab, minus the seasoning .

who said that? all i remember is getting my eyebrows getting burned:lolspin:

Biggles and Fishy, thanks guys, I know that when I'm down, I can always count on you #$#%$# to kick me in the nuts :lol:

Thats what friends are for :lolspin:

Anyways, I won't trying out the jellybeans all at once, just a little. Over the last 4 years, I've had more experience with carbon dosing than without, so I doubt I'll end up doing anything more stupid than normal.

Bello if you want to dose carbon i find a teaspoon of ash every two days or so does wonders for my sps's and is much cheaper than jelly beans...............it made the water rather cloudy though:lol: don't take any of that on board bello:fun2:

I'm now going to bury my head..... in sand.... and since there's no sand around...the toilet bowl :headwalls:

Have fun hehehe

all jokes aside i wish you luck in getting the tank back on track mate:beer:

 

[martinphillip03]

I carbon dose myself. I use bottles of wine under $5.00


Marty

 

[Fishy 1]

I carbon dose myself. I use bottles of wine under $5.00


Marty

Which do you think works better red or white Marty? :lolspin:

 

[biggles]

Sorry to hear that nice acro is having a dummy spit mate, that's a big colony you've grown out in a short period of time so hopefully it'll regrow just as fast. How much did you have to cut away to get at the necrotic area, it's bloody depressing to lose acros that were doing well for a long time and it's always the ones that aren't easily replaced :deadhorse1: I ended up removing 17 SSC pieces from 1" - 3" in size when all hell was breaking loose a month back - that hurt a lot as it destroyed my idea for an SSC dominant display
Hang tough mate and don't mess around getting those new methods up and running as you need to stop the tissue loss asap. Dropping your daytime light intensity will take some stress off the corals if you want to run them lower for a while, i always drop lighting back when the corals are stressed from something i've done yet again.

So what's the basic idea behind carbon dosing Bello, does it just help with nitrates or phos as well and is it basically feeding up bacteria that will have a positive impact on waste processing. Just because i use nothing but a skimmer atm doesn't mean i'm not interested in all the newer gizmos and methods that work for a lot of guys and gals.

I would urge you to stop dosing any weird potions/aminos or any other stuff and just feed the fish until you get the water clean again as the least number of input variables to consider in your water the better when things go to hell with SPS. Jelly beans and booze should be enough to keep maintain your Harry Potter SPS wizard membership........

I want pics of the new jelly bean holder when it's going, are you going with all the same color or mixing things up........... i like red ones in case you wondered.........

 

[Fishy 1]

I would urge you to stop dosing any weird potions/aminos or any other stuff and just feed the fish until you get the water clean again as the least number of input variables to consider in your water the better when things go to hell with SPS. Jelly beans and booze should be enough to keep maintain your Harry Potter SPS wizard membership........

I want pics of the new jelly bean holder when it's going, are you going with all the same color or mixing things up........... i like red ones in case you wondered.........

I agree with biggles, just feed the fish and save (eat) the jelly beans for when the tanks back on track..........i HATE black ones but like the green ones:thumbsup:

 

[Bello]

I carbon dose myself. I use bottles of wine under $5.00

You'll need to share details of your dosing Marty, are we talking about a bottle every hour, or more often?

Sorry to hear that nice acro is having a dummy spit mate, that's a big colony you've grown out in a short period of time so hopefully it'll regrow just as fast. How much did you have to cut away to get at the necrotic area, it's bloody depressing to lose acros that were doing well for a long time and it's always the ones that aren't easily replaced :deadhorse1: I ended up removing 17 SSC pieces from 1" - 3" in size when all hell was breaking loose a month back - that hurt a lot as it destroyed my idea for an SSC dominant display.

It has been a while since I went through this urgent fragging business, or saw any RTN, somehow I don't miss it. The tank ran fairly well over the last year and a half with no real problems apart from the AEFW. I can now empathize better and realize how crappy you must've felt with the SSC's. I'm pretty sure that it was definitely the flame, since the other tank is fine, except for a burst of cyano (my tank sitter didn't sieve the mysis cubes when feeding). the Flame's now chilling in the fuge, want me to send him to you? .

Hang tough mate and don't mess around getting those new methods up and running as you need to stop the tissue loss asap. Dropping your daytime light intensity will take some stress off the corals if you want to run them lower for a while, i always drop lighting back when the corals are stressed from something i've done yet again.

Thanks for the lighting tip, biggles. Just dropped it down by a bit. The Hyacinthus was chopped into 2 massive pieces. One's doing fine, but the other has tissue sloughing off on the basal branches. Hopefully the lighting will calm it down :thumbsup:

So what's the basic idea behind carbon dosing Bello, does it just help with nitrates or phos as well and is it basically feeding up bacteria that will have a positive impact on waste processing. Just because i use nothing but a skimmer atm doesn't mean i'm not interested in all the newer gizmos and methods that work for a lot of guys and gals.

It'll help with removal of NO3 and PO4 through an increased population of bacteria. I've used Zeovit for a long time, and have no doubt that it works. I tried out the old version of the jellybeans about a couple years back on the dropoff, when it was barebottom. Tank went ULNS, so removed it after a few months. Think I'll be better prepared to handle it this time around. I'll start really slow, but not before things stabilize with the Acros. The end goal is to be able to feed really well, while removing the excess quickly.

I would urge you to stop dosing any weird potions/aminos or any other stuff and just feed the fish until you get the water clean again as the least number of input variables to consider in your water the better when things go to hell with SPS. Jelly beans and booze should be enough to keep maintain your Harry Potter SPS wizard membership.......

I want pics of the new jelly bean holder when it's going, are you going with all the same color or mixing things up........... i like red ones in case you wondered.........

With this system, I've really stayed away from the potions . Have about 10 bottles of various brews, but haven't added any. I'm sure the tank will recover now that TerrorFlame is out, just need to minimize my losses till then. Just feeding a little more than normal and nothing else. Simple simple simple

I'll have pics of the Jellybean mixer when I get the Jellybeans. Will be using the old simple TLF Phos reactors, modified a bit, and fed off a manifold from the return, simple enough without any extra pumps.

Thats what friends are for.

Bello if you want to dose carbon i find a teaspoon of ash every two days or so does wonders for my sps's and is much cheaper than jelly beans...............it made the water rather cloudy though. don't take any of that on board bello

all jokes aside i wish you luck in getting the tank back on track mate:beer:

My ash has waaayyy too much Nicotine in them, don't want the corals addicted now, do we? It's costly enough as it is ... Thanks for the support Fishy :thumbsup:

 

[Fishy 1]

My ash has waaayyy too much Nicotine in them, don't want the corals addicted now, do we? It's costly enough as it is ... Thanks for the support Fishy :thumbsup:

hehehe lol, Bello you need to quite smoking so you can spend more money on reefkeeping:lol:, besides I can't kick you in the nuts every time you screw up if you leave here before your times up :sad2:
So buddy its time to try and stop:smokin: