Cupramine
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Copper should not be used. It is ineffective and bad for your fish. Ich is best eliminated via tank transfer. velvet treated with CP. Brook and uronema with formalin baths, and flukes with Prazipro.
Wow, just wow, woah. Im taken back, right now I have all my fish in cupramine, .5 level. Since adding the copper, the white spots have not been seen. Is that just a masking?
If so, what step would you take? I have about another weeks of going fishless in the main tank, I planned on doing TTM to bring fish back into main tank once it has gone fallow for 10 weeks. Until then, I would think its good to keep it at bay.
Totally a bombshell, ive read so many stories of people using copper.
If you have them in copper for ten weeks you may be ok but that assumes you did not fall below the therapeutic dose. But it is definitely not the best method.
The life cycle of ich is such that visible symptoms may not be present, or if they are, will come and go. A non-therapeutic level of copper can mask some parasites.
It's been one month since I've seen a sport, the time I have has them in copper.
.before that, it was every few days.
I don't see why i fall under therapeutic dose, being its all glass tank, sumo, PVC pipe, no rock or sand at all. If.anything I a shade over the .5 level.
Being I have another 6 weeks to go, I can start pulling copper out via water changes and carbon, and once out, use chloroquine if you suggest copper would be ineffective.
I will do ttm, 2 fish at a time, once I hit the 10 week fallow mark.
I know that will solve ich if.copper were to just mask it, but for other diseases, I would like to think Brook ornvelevet would show itself in that 10 week period?
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.before that, it was every few days.
I don't see why i fall under therapeutic dose, being its all glass tank, sumo, PVC pipe, no rock or sand at all. If.anything I a shade over the .5 level.
Being I have another 6 weeks to go, I can start pulling copper out via water changes and carbon, and once out, use chloroquine if you suggest copper would be ineffective.
I will do ttm, 2 fish at a time, once I hit the 10 week fallow mark.
I know that will solve ich if.copper were to just mask it, but for other diseases, I would like to think Brook ornvelevet would show itself in that 10 week period?
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BTW, I want to do this go the T, and get it right. The fish I have in the 75 qt (90 gallon total water volume with sump)
Achilles tang
Sailfin tang
Purple tang
2 small naso tang
Small hippo tang
Swallowtail angel
Emperor angel
Xmas wrasse
2 Wyoming white clowns
Moorish idol
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Achilles tang
Sailfin tang
Purple tang
2 small naso tang
Small hippo tang
Swallowtail angel
Emperor angel
Xmas wrasse
2 Wyoming white clowns
Moorish idol
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TTM will eliminate ich. Other parasites, if any, will show once the fish are in clean (not copper) water for five weeks.
So, with that said, should I pull cupramine now, after just four weeks, and observe?
Or do I pull it, and replace with chloroquine?
Or run 10 weeks cupramine, or, run cupramine another 2 weeks, totaling 6 weeks of it, and do last few.week's in.chloroquine?
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Or do I pull it, and replace with chloroquine?
Or run 10 weeks cupramine, or, run cupramine another 2 weeks, totaling 6 weeks of it, and do last few.week's in.chloroquine?
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Even then there is no guarantee that everything is really gone. The fish could have acquired enough immunity to appear symptom free, but still have a low level infection that is easily overlooked.
Beyond confused. Sounds to me like 10 weeks fallow should rid them in the tank (read some people here saying they went longer and still wasn't enough)
However, were not sure if cupramine will kill it.
Today marks 4 complete weeks in cupramine, I may go 6 full, pull copper via 50 % water change, and carbon, once all out, observe 4 weeks, and if I see anything, go 30 days chloroquine. Followed by tank transfer method back into the display.
Even then, I just read a post by alprazo who had ich after using chloroquine
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However, were not sure if cupramine will kill it.
Today marks 4 complete weeks in cupramine, I may go 6 full, pull copper via 50 % water change, and carbon, once all out, observe 4 weeks, and if I see anything, go 30 days chloroquine. Followed by tank transfer method back into the display.
Even then, I just read a post by alprazo who had ich after using chloroquine
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CP, while the treatment of choice for velvet, is not the treatment of choice for crypto as it is sometimes ineffective (my guess is insufficient contact time) .
Understood. The qt, is a 75 gallon, with 20 long underneath as the sump.
There is only PVC pipe to hide in, spong filtration, and nothing else.
I added the mls per gallon to get me to .5, and raised it slightly from there.
The seachem test kit test shows its as blue as there .5 sample test.
If held there 6 weeks , constant, should I still need worry about velvet?
I know the ich, will/should be eradicated during ttm as I get them into the display.
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There is only PVC pipe to hide in, spong filtration, and nothing else.
I added the mls per gallon to get me to .5, and raised it slightly from there.
The seachem test kit test shows its as blue as there .5 sample test.
If held there 6 weeks , constant, should I still need worry about velvet?
I know the ich, will/should be eradicated during ttm as I get them into the display.
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Copper can mask other parasites. I am never happy without at least five weeks in clean (no copper) water. But it depends on your risk tolerance.
Ok, so would a plan of running copper 2 more weeks, followed by 5 weeks of no medication be a desirable plan?
After 5 weeks, if no signs, I can then start ttm two at a time back into the display. Or should something arise, I can do chloroquine phosphate?
The ttm at the end should take care of any ich that wasn't effected by copper, and the velvet I would think would show itself during the 5 week no med period?
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After 5 weeks, if no signs, I can then start ttm two at a time back into the display. Or should something arise, I can do chloroquine phosphate?
The ttm at the end should take care of any ich that wasn't effected by copper, and the velvet I would think would show itself during the 5 week no med period?
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Sounds good.
Hi steve, if you don't mind, please take a look at my latest thread, "stunned", regarding the sudden deaths of two naso tangs.
Some of the comments I have gotten was aggression, however, I never observed any while I had the lights on, the lights are off when I am not home.
Could that be a reasonable explanation, my instinct tells me the chances of both dying, becoming emaciated, within hours of eating, swimming erratically, tells me other wise.
Thanks
Some of the comments I have gotten was aggression, however, I never observed any while I had the lights on, the lights are off when I am not home.
Could that be a reasonable explanation, my instinct tells me the chances of both dying, becoming emaciated, within hours of eating, swimming erratically, tells me other wise.
Thanks
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