What people have needed to do on both of these threads is read the question- and answer it. The poster was not going to be able to test his tank often- and was worried that this would effect his cycle. Not testing would not effect the cycle-period. My point was people over test and try to rush the cycle- when it takes the same amount of time- 4 to 6 weeks. Regular testing of parameters once a tank is established is always recommended.
Cycling without testing?
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wooden_reefer
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For a reef tank I rountinely test for ammonia because the livestock is too varied to know if there is death. Unlikely not impossible.
For any FO tank, you can count the fish and I do not do any routine ammonia test. You can inspect for the correct physical setup as as clogs. If you design with wide safety margins, it is almost impossible for a FO tank to have problem with physical setup, IME. Nitrification won't be a problem with a FO tank properly and wisely designed.
IndianFeather
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I like M&M's period. Any color, any time.
Wooden_Reefer,
With all due respect to your varied method, it simply isn't necessary (nor respectful to Michael's many years of successful reefkeeping) to insinuate how he feels about newcomers.
I feel you are indeed taking this thread a bit too far off the original intended (and in process) topic of conversation.
As a reader of this thread your posts are now becoming distracting. I feel this is because of their repetiveness.
I feel this leaves the OP's question, and each poster's suggestion (as well as your suggestions) too muddled to understand.
In a previous thread of this nature you had agreed that talking about your success with your method would be better suited on a more advanced, or more relevant Reef Central section.
I apologize if you do have a thread there currently and I missed it somehow.
Still I would ask you to consider this again.
With all due respect to your varied method, it simply isn't necessary (nor respectful to Michael's many years of successful reefkeeping) to insinuate how he feels about newcomers.
I feel you are indeed taking this thread a bit too far off the original intended (and in process) topic of conversation.
As a reader of this thread your posts are now becoming distracting. I feel this is because of their repetiveness.
I feel this leaves the OP's question, and each poster's suggestion (as well as your suggestions) too muddled to understand.
In a previous thread of this nature you had agreed that talking about your success with your method would be better suited on a more advanced, or more relevant Reef Central section.
I apologize if you do have a thread there currently and I missed it somehow.
Still I would ask you to consider this again.
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Dupe post, sorry.
ok im done with this thread now, but will always advise new to the hobby members of reef central to test for ammonia, nothing ive seen wooden post will change my mind for sure, hes not wrong with his comments, but hes mistaken if he thinks the newcommers have enough common sence at this early stage to understand the nitrogen cycle, if they all did then i wouldnt be trying to get him to stop suggesting the 2 nitrite tests only, as for syrinx comments, i actually enjoyed his posts, made sence, but again just suggested although right, its only right for someone with knowledge, i see posts daily here from folk with 2-3 week old tanks which would amaze the pair of you. the damage they have already done filling the tank with fish and corals and even nems after a couple to 3 weeks with no knowledge if their tank even has a biological filtration system is frightening, only if testing media and seeing ammonia and nitrite start, peak and disappear will they know.
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all done now
charnkiat
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Well, I think I'm done too. Actually, I have more specific questions, but I think I should start a new thread. 
I think I understand what's going to happen during the cycle, and that it's going to take 4-6 weeks. My next step will be buying ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate testing kits, just because it'll be fun and educational to see where in the cycle my tank is at when I go visit the tank.
I think I even understand what robust cycling and remote cycling is, though it was very difficult to read, with all due respect. But would I do it? Probably not, simply because I want to stock slowly with small fish, and I'm not planning to add any 10" fish to my 34"x22" tank.
Thank you all for the advice.
ps.. I like blue M&Ms too :love2:
I think I understand what's going to happen during the cycle, and that it's going to take 4-6 weeks. My next step will be buying ammonia, nitrite, and nitrate testing kits, just because it'll be fun and educational to see where in the cycle my tank is at when I go visit the tank.
I think I even understand what robust cycling and remote cycling is, though it was very difficult to read, with all due respect. But would I do it? Probably not, simply because I want to stock slowly with small fish, and I'm not planning to add any 10" fish to my 34"x22" tank.
Thank you all for the advice.
ps.. I like blue M&Ms too :love2:
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