Cyno or Dyno Algae problem !!! help needed
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perikaruppan
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I have corals on my tank arielx.. so not sure about the chemical treatement...
Well update: the strands are back!!!! and after new GFO media, phospates are down to 0.02ppm... but the strands have started to grow...
should strart to suck them out of the system tommorow...
is there anything else that i can do get rid of them or keep them under control? do any snails take care of them?
NOTE: they are all comming in the same places where they were before.. meaning on the same portion of the rock... does this mean that they are well rooted into the rocks?
Well update: the strands are back!!!! and after new GFO media, phospates are down to 0.02ppm... but the strands have started to grow...
should strart to suck them out of the system tommorow...
is there anything else that i can do get rid of them or keep them under control? do any snails take care of them?
NOTE: they are all comming in the same places where they were before.. meaning on the same portion of the rock... does this mean that they are well rooted into the rocks?
I'd give the GFO some time to work. The bacteria probably are growing in the same place because the flow or some other parameter is just right for them. If you'd like, you could use a tiny bit of lime paste to sterilize a spot or two to see what happens. Just make sure the kalk doesn't land on any corals or other animals that you like.
pciscott
Pirates Cove Reef
I would change the GFO every 4 to 7 days. The Algae eats the P04 giving the water column a false reading. If your P04 was at .15 it will take a few months of changing the GFO to pull the Phosphate out of your live rocks. A quick test would be to pull a rock out and put in a covered bucket of tank water in a couple days see if the P04 reading goes up and this will tell you if you are leaching P04 from the rocks. With no light on the rock the Algae is not competing for the P04. I have never turned my lights off, but I bet your P04 reading is higher after 3 days of lights out??? If you are careful, and do some reading Lanthanum can be used carefully to help speed up the GFO results as GFO gets expensive when changed every few days. Good luck and stay out of the heat.
perikaruppan
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thanks bertoni, will do that put some lime there. there are no corals near those places so i dont need to worry...
Scott, thanks for your input. will do that testing on my rocks and see what my phospate readings are. Will read about lanthanum.
Scott, thanks for your input. will do that testing on my rocks and see what my phospate readings are. Will read about lanthanum.
perikaruppan
Member
Dyno it is : Help Needed - Updated
Dyno it is : Help Needed - Updated
It is dyno's for sure ...
Well update:
1. Again off to lights off schedule as they just started to bloom like mad in a couple of days... sucked them out and off to lights off routine... covered the tank.. and it is day 5 now... actinics are on now...
2. What i noted is that, the places where the dyno usually come back have got pinkish-red florescent corraline algae kindda stuff on the LR.. they are not every where... but are there where the Dyno's come regularly... is this an indicating of dyno's or some other algae?
3. can get my phospates to 0.13 only... changing GFO again now...
4. Added CAH02, KALK, and upped the PH from 7.72 to 8.4.. will try to maintain at 8.4 or thereabouts...
5. Can we use aluminium oxide? does that work better?
6. My snaiils are all alive!!! (2 turbo's and 2 nassuarius)
7. The strings of the dyno's before i sucked them, tangled onto some of the Birdsnest i have, and now after the lights off routine they are bleached.. but the tips of that stem are all alright... should i frag them or leave them to recover? This is the the first time they have affected a coral in the tank.
kindly advice what to do..
what else can i do?
Dyno it is : Help Needed - Updated
It is dyno's for sure ...
Well update:
1. Again off to lights off schedule as they just started to bloom like mad in a couple of days... sucked them out and off to lights off routine... covered the tank.. and it is day 5 now... actinics are on now...
2. What i noted is that, the places where the dyno usually come back have got pinkish-red florescent corraline algae kindda stuff on the LR.. they are not every where... but are there where the Dyno's come regularly... is this an indicating of dyno's or some other algae?
3. can get my phospates to 0.13 only... changing GFO again now...
4. Added CAH02, KALK, and upped the PH from 7.72 to 8.4.. will try to maintain at 8.4 or thereabouts...
5. Can we use aluminium oxide? does that work better?
6. My snaiils are all alive!!! (2 turbo's and 2 nassuarius)
7. The strings of the dyno's before i sucked them, tangled onto some of the Birdsnest i have, and now after the lights off routine they are bleached.. but the tips of that stem are all alright... should i frag them or leave them to recover? This is the the first time they have affected a coral in the tank.
kindly advice what to do..
what else can i do?
Knox_Legend
New member
I recently battled some dinos in my 5.5 gallon and my 135 gallon and I dosed 1ml of peroxide per 10 gallons with a three day lights out period and after a week the results are amazing. Both tanks have cleared up completely and are dino free especially the 5.5 pico tank mixed reef. All my corals are open and super happy and I have had no ill effects from the peroxide. Im not sure how this will be long term but I will now continue to dose the peroxide for another week of so with a full light period and normal feeding routine to see if the dinos return...
perikaruppan
Member
Bertoni, i am using hanna's phospate meter for testing, and PH Meter calibrated regularly for PH measurements. on Salifert the Phospates are less than 0.03!!!.
Will a large water change solve the Phospate problem?
started to up the PH around 8.4 to 8.5, but i need to add about 20grams of Calcium Hydroxide every 3 hours to maintain at that level!!! is that ok? or will that take my other parameters such as CA (@420) and Alk (@7) (Both measured by Salifert) out?
There are many variable results on Hydrogen Peroxide, i also have purchased it, but not sure whether to do or not.. as many people say they didnt get results!!! - what to do?
I was thinking,
1. will try to maintain the Ph around that level, and see what the results are... Actinics are ON.. will turn on my Lights (Whites) slowly... using LEDs so easy to do.
2. Will do a 50% W/c with Red Sea Coral Pro Salt, to see if that will reduce phospates. May be my Natural Sea Water is the problem... when measured it has 0.15 ppm phspates!!!
3. Will change the GFO again today...
Will a large water change solve the Phospate problem?
started to up the PH around 8.4 to 8.5, but i need to add about 20grams of Calcium Hydroxide every 3 hours to maintain at that level!!! is that ok? or will that take my other parameters such as CA (@420) and Alk (@7) (Both measured by Salifert) out?
There are many variable results on Hydrogen Peroxide, i also have purchased it, but not sure whether to do or not.. as many people say they didnt get results!!! - what to do?
I was thinking,
1. will try to maintain the Ph around that level, and see what the results are... Actinics are ON.. will turn on my Lights (Whites) slowly... using LEDs so easy to do.
2. Will do a 50% W/c with Red Sea Coral Pro Salt, to see if that will reduce phospates. May be my Natural Sea Water is the problem... when measured it has 0.15 ppm phspates!!!
3. Will change the GFO again today...
I am skeptical about the Hanna meter at this point, but it might be accurate. I'm not sure how much GFO you're using, but it should be able to reduce the phosphate to very low levels.
The 50% water change might do more harm than good. I'd be careful about drastic changes.
The 50% water change might do more harm than good. I'd be careful about drastic changes.
perikaruppan
Member
i am currently using about 400grams of BRS GFO on the tank that is 130 gallon.
have given the water to a lab to test the Phospates, will know the results tommorow.
have given the water to a lab to test the Phospates, will know the results tommorow.
perikaruppan
Member
i am using about 400grams of BRS-GFO on a 130 gallon tank.. i hope that is ok.. its 2wks old now. will change it today again.
So a 20% weekly will help? or dont do any W/c till the Dynos are under control?
there is too much kalk going into my tank to maintain PH (25 grams every 3-4 hours), but i find that the florescent on the pinkish-red spots on the rocks is reduced. It has been only 12 hours of high PH.....
So a 20% weekly will help? or dont do any W/c till the Dynos are under control?
there is too much kalk going into my tank to maintain PH (25 grams every 3-4 hours), but i find that the florescent on the pinkish-red spots on the rocks is reduced. It has been only 12 hours of high PH.....
clowndude
New member
I have been reading a lot of dino lately as I'm fighting the same battle. I am going to try three things and see if it helps the issue. Hydro peroxide, lights out for three days and adjusting the ph up to 8.4 to 8.5 using kalkwasser. Hopefully this combo will help knock out the algae.
perikaruppan
Member
Well, Lights out, 8.4 PH, Phospates to 0.03... still hasnt kill these beasts - dynos....
So what do i do.. i dont wanna quit the hobby...
Was thinking, if i couldnt take my rocks out - wash them in HCL to make them as Dead Rocks, and put them back in the tank... same water... will that work?
or i need to reset my tank completely with new water and new rocks?
my options:
1. Take rocks out, Clean them with HCL and put them back in same water
2. Use the same rocks in my new setup with totally new water..
3. Both New Rock and new water...
What can i do... kindly help...
So what do i do.. i dont wanna quit the hobby...
Was thinking, if i couldnt take my rocks out - wash them in HCL to make them as Dead Rocks, and put them back in the tank... same water... will that work?
or i need to reset my tank completely with new water and new rocks?
my options:
1. Take rocks out, Clean them with HCL and put them back in same water
2. Use the same rocks in my new setup with totally new water..
3. Both New Rock and new water...
What can i do... kindly help...
perikaruppan
Member
just a note...
i dont find them killing any snails, nor corals... they are as a matter of fact growing the closest to the SPS, some on the frag plugs also.. but the frags are all perfectly ok.. but not growing though!!!.
Is this really dynos? or have i diagnosed it wrongly? one main symptom is that on lights out - they die totally .. and they come back when the lights are back...
but during night light outs, they dont die down and come back in the morning... they still end up dancing even in the night!!! just that in the morning the bubbles start ...
i dont find them killing any snails, nor corals... they are as a matter of fact growing the closest to the SPS, some on the frag plugs also.. but the frags are all perfectly ok.. but not growing though!!!.
Is this really dynos? or have i diagnosed it wrongly? one main symptom is that on lights out - they die totally .. and they come back when the lights are back...
but during night light outs, they dont die down and come back in the morning... they still end up dancing even in the night!!! just that in the morning the bubbles start ...
perikaruppan
Member
Jon, as you had indicated.. i used Calcium Hydroxide on the rocks where they are blooming fast.. and now since the CAHO2 dosent spread evenly over the rocks, the places where it is spread - they are not growing whereas in other places they are growing still...
Will try to get a microscopic view of them...
Will try to get a microscopic view of them...
perikaruppan
Member
Thinking of Re-Setting my tank:
Have a few corals (SPS and LPS) that can be stocked at my friends place...
my options:
1. Take rocks out, Clean them with HCL and put them back in same water
2. Use the same rocks in my new setup with totally new water..
3. Both New Rock and new water...
What can i do... kindly help...
Have a few corals (SPS and LPS) that can be stocked at my friends place...
my options:
1. Take rocks out, Clean them with HCL and put them back in same water
2. Use the same rocks in my new setup with totally new water..
3. Both New Rock and new water...
What can i do... kindly help...
TruespeedEM1
New member
What does your full CuC consist of?
I battled Cyano for about a month and used chemiclean and it completely wiped it out. I do not know how it would do for dino, and its not made for dino, so I cant recommend using it, not unless someone who has had that tried it and it worked.
I battled Cyano for about a month and used chemiclean and it completely wiped it out. I do not know how it would do for dino, and its not made for dino, so I cant recommend using it, not unless someone who has had that tried it and it worked.
