Deltec vs Octopus?

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6667672#post6667672 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nikonosis
So your telling me an Aqua-Bee 2000/1 makes an $800 difference between a deltec and an octopus? Those pump don't come even close to costing $800... Eheim pumps are only around $100.

If your skimmer pump broke down when you were out of town, how much would it be worth to you then?

Deltec matches pump to body. That takes some research. You pay for that. In fact, they make different needlewheels for the European and American market. The American needlewheels are fine tuned for American voltage and frequency.

Deltec uses pumps that are manufactured to their specs by Eheim and Aquabee. You pay for that also.

Deltec has along standing reputation for relaibility and good customer support. You pay for that also.

If you have $5,000 to $10,000 in livestock, you typically want the most reliable skimmers available. FWIW, I don't own a Deltec, but my observations and dealings with them have been very positive.

I forgot to add:

If you want to save a buck, then save yourself a buck. Many experienced reefers (myself included) will tell you that the cheap solutions can sometimes end up costing you more in the end. Ask your self how much is your system and pets worth to you and go from there. Be careful on where you save your money, and try to avoid buying twice.

 

[Pyrrhus]

I am currently running a RPS-2000 on the LR system at the store I work at. The performance from this skimmer is excellent, there are a few things that i do not like about it, but I am confident that it will outperform any NW skimmer in its price range. The skimmer is very quiet and easily pulls between 1/2 and 3/4 gallon of wet skimmate per day.

when someone not familiar with the skimmer tried to adjust it the foam was too dry and produced an 18" tall foam sculpture on top of the collection cup lid.

Will this skimmer perform to the level of a Deltec? Probably not, but, If I ever feel that this skimmer needs to perform to the level of a Deltec, I can add an aspirated H&S Aquabee 2000/1 with needlewheel and venturi for $159.99 and add it to the $299.99 skimmer and still come out over $350 less than the Deltec APF600 and $200 dollars less than the equivalent H&S.

 

[nikonosis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6668747#post6668747 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
thats what i dont get...when i see 1,2,3,4 hundred gallon systems with large top of the line skimmers pulling out tons of skimmate daily, i wonder if thats more because there is alot to pull out and the very same skimmer they use would pull less on a less loaded tank or that the skimmer is the reason for the amount of skimmate?(by the way i just bought a nice one, but my tank has a low-medium bioload and i only feed once a day...so i'm wondering if there just won't be much to pull??)

Its probably more because they have huge bio loads and since they bought the most expensive skimmer they could find, they tell everyone that it is the best and it pulls out 100 cups of skimmate a day.

 

[nikonosis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6669443#post6669443 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by DeltecRules
I love my deltec hangon Mce600. I tried some of those cheap brand skimmers and they either have been sold or retired to the closet. Of all the money I spent on chose cheap alternatives I could have spent on a great skimmer like a deltec the first time.
In action

5 days of nog (dry) out of my 55 gallon

my old css pulled out more skimmate than that in 5 days on a medium stocked 75g.

 

[nikonosis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6669704#post6669704 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pyrrhus
I am currently running a RPS-2000 on the LR system at the store I work at. The performance from this skimmer is excellent, there are a few things that i do not like about it, but I am confident that it will outperform any NW skimmer in its price range. The skimmer is very quiet and easily pulls between 1/2 and 3/4 gallon of wet skimmate per day.

when someone not familiar with the skimmer tried to adjust it the foam was too dry and produced an 18" tall foam sculpture on top of the collection cup lid.

Will this skimmer perform to the level of a Deltec? Probably not, but, If I ever feel that this skimmer needs to perform to the level of a Deltec, I can add an aspirated H&S Aquabee 2000/1 with needlewheel and venturi for $159.99 and add it to the $299.99 skimmer and still come out over $350 less than the Deltec APF600 and $200 dollars less than the equivalent H&S.

finally a good answer.

 

[DeltecRules]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6669704#post6669704 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by pyrrhus
I am currently running a RPS-2000 on the LR system at the store I work at. The performance from this skimmer is excellent, there are a few things that i do not like about it, but I am confident that it will outperform any NW skimmer in its price range. The skimmer is very quiet and easily pulls between 1/2 and 3/4 gallon of wet skimmate per day.

when someone not familiar with the skimmer tried to adjust it the foam was too dry and produced an 18" tall foam sculpture on top of the collection cup lid.

Will this skimmer perform to the level of a Deltec? Probably not, but, If I ever feel that this skimmer needs to perform to the level of a Deltec, I can add an aspirated H&S Aquabee 2000/1 with needlewheel and venturi for $159.99 and add it to the $299.99 skimmer and still come out over $350 less than the Deltec APF600 and $200 dollars less than the equivalent H&S.

Don't forget to add another $89.99 for the needle wheel impellar and $14.99 for the air intake and $3.99 for the air hose. Thats another $108 dollars to the $159.00 total. So you goy a total of $268.00. As tacocat said these pumps are designed to match the body of the skimmer for maximum performance if you think slapping this pump on a RPS-3000 is going to make this skimmer as efficient as a H&S or deltec I think you are wrong.

 

[nikonosis]

"Deltec uses pumps that are manufactured to their specs by Eheim and Aquabee. You pay for that also."

Im pretty sure most the companies that make skimmers, match their pumps to their skimmers.

"Deltec has along standing reputation for relaibility and good customer support. You pay for that also."

Tunzes has great customer support and makes skimmers, does that mean I should buy one of theirs?

"If you have $5,000 to $10,000 in livestock, you typically want the most reliable skimmers available."

Wouldn't that be your opinion that deltecs are the most reliable? Can you provide any facts that support that?

 

[nikonosis]

thanks for all the opinions

 

[nikonosis]

Does a thread like this make anyone want to buy a deltec?

http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=769060

The people that own deltecs are so nice and helpful.

 

[HOZERTHEBONEFISH]

You know what makes me want to buy a Deltec? The fact that almost every TOTM tank for past few months, as well as my hero's tank(Oregon Reef) is run by a big eheim driven Deltecs.

Coincidence, conspiracy or maybe deltecs are good skimmers?

 

[nikonosis]

ive seen alot of the TOTM people use homemade skimmers... but you are right alot of them do use deltec!

 

[nikonosis]

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[crab0000]

Man, somebody just likes to argue. How much R&D do you think Coralvue put into their skimmer compared to Deltec? How much air does the Octupus pump pull? How much is this compared to what a Deltec pump pulls? I didn't buy a Deltec because I have money to burn. Lord knows with my wife and I being teachers we aren't rolling in money, but I wanted what I thought was best for my tank. Could I have gotten the same performance for less money? Possibly, but I am confident in my purchase which makes me happy. Having spent a lot of money on cheaper altenatives in the past, and not being happy with the results, I came to the conclusion that you do get what you pay for and now I just buy higher priced equipment. I guess according to you that makes me stupid, but everyone is entitled to their oppinion.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6668938#post6668938 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by E-A-G-L-E-S
anyones thoughts on this?
?(by the way i just bought a nice one, but my tank has a low-medium bioload and i only feed once a day...so i'm wondering if there just won't be much to pull??)

I had my EuroReef ES8-2 on a 37 with one fish fed one time per day, sometimes every other day, and it stll pulled plenty of gunk out. I just added a Deltec Turbo 1250 to the tank and it is pulling gunk. IMO you can not overskim a tank. There will always be stuff to skim out.

 

[crab0000]

Also, IBTL .

 

[nikonosis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6670001#post6670001 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by crab0000
Man, somebody just likes to argue. How much R&D do you think Coralvue put into their skimmer compared to Deltec? How much air does the Octupus pump pull? How much is this compared to what a Deltec pump pulls? I didn't buy a Deltec because I have money to burn. Lord knows with my wife and I being teachers we aren't rolling in money, but I wanted what I thought was best for my tank. Could I have gotten the same performance for less money? Possibly, but I am confident in my purchase which makes me happy. Having spent a lot of money on cheaper altenatives in the past, and not being happy with the results, I came to the conclusion that you do get what you pay for and now I just buy higher priced equipment. I guess according to you that makes me stupid, but everyone is entitled to their oppinion.


I had my EuroReef ES8-2 on a 37 with one fish fed one time per day, sometimes every other day, and it stll pulled plenty of gunk out. I just added a Deltec Turbo 1250 to the tank and it is pulling gunk. IMO you can not overskim a tank. There will always be stuff to skim out.

How much better does that deltec work compared to the euro? I don't like to argue but people keep coming on here and saying deltec is the best and don't really provide any facts to back that up other than they bought one and they love it.

 

[ujohnk]

I dont think Deltec are great, i have owned 3 of there skimmers and had problems with all 3.
John.

 

[nikonosis]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6670077#post6670077 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by ujohnk
I dont think Deltec are great, i have owned 3 of there skimmers and had problems with all 3.
John.

amazing, someone that owned a deltec and doesn't rave about them just because he spent alot of money on them and didn't want to be embarrased by saying something negative about them. How was their customer support when you had problems?

 

[crab0000]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=6670016#post6670016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by nikonosis
How much better does that deltec work compared to the euro?

It's only been on the tank for a few days, but I have noticed a few things. First the Deltec bubbles seem to be smaller and more dense than the ER. Secondly my tank temp has fallen two to three degrees since the switch. I can't really compare skimmate production yet since the Deltec is still breaking in. It's also going to be hard to compare the two since they are so different in size. One thing I have noticed is an improvement in polyp extension on my SPS for some reason.

 

[ujohnk]

Im in the UK, but the customer support is pretty good. I have spent a lot over the years on Deltec equipment, but it is cheaper in this country.
There is not as much choice on skimmers in the UK, and the ones you can get by different companys are all around the same price (Deltec,Aquamedic,H&S) there isnt really any good cheap skimmers to pick from.
John.

John.

 

[rock455]

Have you looked at MRC?
www.myreefcreations.com

I have the MR-2 and have been very happy with it -- I have owned a Berlin XL, Euroreef and a Deltec -- I have to say that I have been more satisfied with the performance of the MRC over time.