Designing a monster
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steve the plumb
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Well I have one 8 way and some of my outlets are split with tees and its not enough flow.Its not a bad flow but I also have a dart for a return pump.I don't know if you want to keep acros or not.Do you want sand or BB.Your tank is a lot bigger than mine this is why I would say 3 strong pumps with 3x 8 ways.If you want to do a cl for one your tank is huge.My drum has the 2 holes if the outlets are not split the flow is nice.so you would have to do 8 outlets no tees.Maybe get the drum with one hole so that all the flow is concentrated on the outlets.You are looking at 10 feet long plus 5 ft wide.maybe 2 strong pumps with 2x 8 ways.You want to make sure you get the hole tank.I have the 8 way covering 8ft x30.Your tank is 2 ft longer but double my width plus the top part of your tank needs flow so maybe you can get away with 2 barracudas and 2 x8 ways.I would have a dart pump for a return plus some tunze pumps or 2 wave box units(at least)
steve the plumb
In Memoriam
by the way not to burst your bubble but I had a 30" tall tank and it was nice to look at but a pain in the *** to get my hand down to the bottom.Your tank will be 5 ft wide.You will need to get a long pair of tongs or get wet if you have to move any corals.My tank was 150 gal joke.
steve the plumb
In Memoriam
now if you don't mind the look of the tunze will you save money in the end?Yes you will.The tunze aren't cheap but if you can get the large ones they push a lot of water and use less wattage.Plumbing part for the cl are expensive.So you won't save money on that.I got good prices for my plumbing and it still cost me a small fortune.Tank your size $1000 easy for plumbing and thats a very fair estimate(it will probably cost more. the sequence pumps will use more wattage than the tunze or the ecotech (if they don't burn a hole in the tank) Plus your tank will be to thick.
spazz
New member
the big question i have it wat kind of tank will this be? comunity fish and sps tank or soofties/lps tank? alot depends on what you want to house in the tank. then you need to match the equiptment to those animals and bio load.
lighting
sump
reactor
skimmer
water flow pumps
computer system
water change tanks
water storage tanks
ro/di systems
these are the items that you will need to size to the bio load of the tank.
this will be an awesome system once it is finished. there is only a couple of tanks that are close to the size of the ank you want to build here on reef central.
here is some good reading for you on a big tank.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=861003
lighting
sump
reactor
skimmer
water flow pumps
computer system
water change tanks
water storage tanks
ro/di systems
these are the items that you will need to size to the bio load of the tank.
this will be an awesome system once it is finished. there is only a couple of tanks that are close to the size of the ank you want to build here on reef central.
here is some good reading for you on a big tank.
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=861003
dogstar74
Premium Member
If it's not been mentioned, I'd suggest an AGE Aquarium. They have a PVC bottom and any type of combination of acrylics and plastics, and glass. They can be drilled through the bottom without any compromise on strength. It's where it's at for flow patterns.
But $$$$$ Good luck! Can't wait to see the build.
But $$$$$ Good luck! Can't wait to see the build.
I'd go with a larger tank over a Viper any day for half that you can get a 03-04 cobra with some mods and make just as much power. (It's such a disgrace that Chryler and Ford even united together anyway.
BTW my 850+ horspower car can keep sitting in the trailer untill I get that new 300 gallon I've been looking at!
Harleyguy don't get discouraged over someone elses opinion do what you think is best.
BTW my 850+ horspower car can keep sitting in the trailer untill I get that new 300 gallon I've been looking at!
Harleyguy don't get discouraged over someone elses opinion do what you think is best.
mattsfishes84
New member
@ Steve the Plumb - What model AC Unit is that? I've been looking for something similar to that. I think this may work, I'd just wanna get to the store to check it out.
@Harleyguy - Where abouts are you in Georgia? I wanna come see this monster when its done!
@Harleyguy - Where abouts are you in Georgia? I wanna come see this monster when its done!
steve the plumb
In Memoriam
Its a 24000 BTU Sanyo.Sanyo has a 6 year warranty on all parts and labor.You can get yourself a cheaper brand.You will pay a lot less for a cheaper china model.Most of these units are made in China or Korea anyways.You can get a cheap 12 000 BTU unit for as low as $1100.Probably less in the U.S.Here in Canada we seem to want to pay more for things!My buddy bought like 50 cheap units and had problems with a few of them but you will save money in the end.If you have someone that will install for you at a good price then you are fine.If you find them at HD try to get them to install if the price is good.This way you will get them to warranty the unit or get someone who knows what he is doing.Its not something that you can do yourself.Pipes have to be silver solder and the unit must be filled with refrigerant.Its not a DIY project like a window unit.
seamonkey2
New member
Harleyguy, on your stand, consider this, do you like bending down to see the tank?...NO
I dont thats why I had my stand made 47" tall, add 24" of tank and the fish swims in front of me as I am standing in front of the tank, BTW I am 6'2", it may be difficult to clean, but you are going to use a small ladder anyway.
thanks for your tour, steel rain baby
Jose
I dont thats why I had my stand made 47" tall, add 24" of tank and the fish swims in front of me as I am standing in front of the tank, BTW I am 6'2", it may be difficult to clean, but you are going to use a small ladder anyway.
thanks for your tour, steel rain baby
Jose
David MC Lee
Active member
Hope you have long arms. Mine was going to be same size and I changed it from 36" to 30" and glad I did.
Harleyguy
Premium Member
My last tank was 32" deep with a 2-3" sand bed and I didn't have any problem. I understand the extra 4" is a lot, but I really don't mind getting wet.
The depth will, I think, help me because I want a mixed reef and plan on running 8-10 400w MH 14K. I figure I should be able to keep everything from SPS and LPS to softies.
I will keep typical reef safe fish. I plan on computer system for control (haven't decided which one yet). I will have a large refugium, and probably 2 large sumps, QT tank, and grow-out tank. I think I'm going to jump on the band-wagon and build my own skimmer, but I will buy a GEO reactor. I'm not going to run Ozone, but I will have a couple of media chambers. I had a 300 Gpd ro/di, and it was really overkill. I will most likely go with a 100 Gpd and a 50 Gpd as a back-up. I will also have a mixing tank set-up. I am thinking around 3 pumps right now 1 CL and 2 returns. Skimmer will be gravity fed. I am ordering the tank with 6 drains 3x2" and 3x1.5" (better to much than not enough).
I'm not sure exactly how much flow I am going to need and welcome suggestions.
Harleyguy
Premium Member
Personally I think the Tunze's are hideous. I would use them if I could hide them, but that's the only way. I'm not sure I fallow the last part... What will burn a hole in my tank? And will the tank be too thick for Tunze? My tank will only be 3/4" Euro top and bottom with cross braces.
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