dino experiment

[regtur]

ok I have a example of stupidity, we had a massive dino outbreak last week. our 150g looked horrible, my sps were dying quick, we warmed up some ro water and dipped duncans, tube's, sun, put them in my frag tank and all doing well. and the next morning looked at 150 and nothing but dead dino's the only thing we could think of was I had used aspercreme earlier that day washed hands but could still faintly smell it but I was in hurry to save corals. could be crème have a chemical that dino's expire

 

[thegrinch620]

I was going to target dose a couple of areas on the sand bed but after a couple of days of turning the lights off when I go to work and back on when I am home it seems to be dying off now. Probably pointless having them on at all as at these times its mainly blues but I like to look at my tank (as we all do).

The main concern/headache throughout has been that I have to put my skimmer in the middle chamber of the sump and not the return which probably makes it less effective to a small degree but the sock wreaks havoc with the damn thing, however after keeping a sock and seeing the crap it collects I am unsure if I will run without one (I just need a bigger sump!).

I am still dosing the 6% Peroxide (I keep saying it as I struggled to find what % people were using) and the rocks are nearly new, I have a small amount of coralline which is still doing fine and the snails are all still alive, I just want to get some water changes done now as I haven't checked my nitrates but I imagine they are high!

I am going to switch salts first though, going to try one without so many nutrients in it as I don't run a reef tank at the minute so don't want to keep adding them like I am.

Also I realised something which I don't want to admit. I left the plastic packaging on all my RO filters for over a year. TDS was always 0 but not ideal nonetheless.

I will keep updating, my battle isn't won but I am going in the right direction and anything that will help someone else suffering with the same problem is always worth a few minutes of my time. I didn't know that FOWLR was uncommon for Dinos if I am honest but they certainly look like Dinos. I have know luck to be honest, my RO res leaked, after filling pretty much the whole tank (learning curve!!!!!!) my brand new car needed a new engine after 5k miles, hey ho there are people worse off in the world.

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Dinos

Dinos

Hi guys been battling dinos for a while now lights out etc ,I came across this thread and noticed you guys use hydrogen peroxide ,my question is what strength and type as I would like to try it with lights out and water filtered and changed through filter sock any reply and help on this would be great thanks:thumbsup:

 

[Lsufan]

Most people use the 3% & they dose 1 ml to every 10 gallons of tank water. I don’t know what u have tried but peroxide would be a last resort type thing for me if I had corals. Their is a few other methods I would try first.

What is your no3 & po4 would be one of the first questions I would ask.

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Dinos

Dinos

Hi my phos level is 0.4 and nitrate is 25 to 35 ppm I've recently added cheats to the sump and 5ltr of siporax to th e sump area and I use rowa phos in deltec reactor and skim 24/7 with a deltec apf 600 skimmer the tank is mostly soft corals its 115 U.K. gallons and has about 80 kg live rock.

The dinos are on the sand I've tried lights out for three days tank and sump totally blacked out and to be honest I feed the tank and and fish about twice a week and very little at that as apart from the dinos the tank and animals are all healthy just fed up with the dinos on the sand that's why I was thinking of dosing peroxide.

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Ment to be cheato in last post not cheats lol

 

[bertoni]

I'd probably give the Chaetomorpha and the Siporax some time to get working before I'd dose hydrogen peroxide. Are the animals doing well enough?

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Dinos

Dinos

Yes all is good with corals and fish my carpet anenomone shrunk but still ok ' I managed to source dino x from a uk supplier so I've ordered that I will run lights out with dino x and some water changes through filter socks and add the old water back . Rather than use the peroxide , as from reading about the dino x it is reef friendly .

 

[bertoni]

Dino X seems to be safe to run. I agree that giving it a shot is a good idea.

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Thanks for the info and input on the dino problem guys realy appreciate it thankyou.

 

[bertoni]

You're welcome. Good luck!

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Dinos update

Dinos update

Hi guys just a progress update

Removed siporax ,cheato ,miracle mud ,turning lights of for 6 days main tank and sump treating with Dino x every 2 days 21ml , 7th day 4 doses in dinos look gone light in mai tank back on blues only 3% to 50% back to 3% over 5hr period . Day 7 filtered 15 gallon through filter sock then returned same water back to main tank also put in spare skimmer I have as a back up to run alongside my deltec apf 600 skimmer. Day 8 filtered another 15 gallon through filter sock and returned water to main tank ,keeping light cycle the same for another 6 days.
Day 13 7doses in of Dino x introducing white light back into light cycle at 1% to 3% back to 1% same time frame as blues .
Day 14 filtered 10 gallon through filter sock and returned water to main tank, introduced 1ltr rowa carbon into reactor and turned it back on.

If all continues well I will add mm mud ,cheato and siporax back into sump filtration system.

Day 16 introduced mm mud and cheato back into sump but gave it a rinse with ro water before hand also added siporax back into sump and turned on rowaphos reactor to, sump light turned back on to.

Over the course of the treatment there were no adverse affects on the corals the fish or the inverts all are good the anenomone was the only thing that shrunk a little bit.

Fingers crossed everything is looking good time will tell last thing to do is ramp the lights up gradually .

 

[bertoni]

Well, that sounds like progress. I hope that the tank does well. Please let us know how the mud and Chaetomorpha affect the system.

 

[azsoccerpop]

Hi guys just a progress update

Removed siporax ,cheato ,miracle mud ,turning lights of for 6 days main tank and sump treating with Dino x every 2 days 21ml , 7th day 4 doses in dinos look gone light in mai tank back on blues only 3% to 50% back to 3% over 5hr period . Day 7 filtered 15 gallon through filter sock then returned same water back to main tank also put in spare skimmer I have as a back up to run alongside my deltec apf 600 skimmer. Day 8 filtered another 15 gallon through filter sock and returned water to main tank ,keeping light cycle the same for another 6 days.
Day 13 7doses in of Dino x introducing white light back into light cycle at 1% to 3% back to 1% same time frame as blues .
Day 14 filtered 10 gallon through filter sock and returned water to main tank, introduced 1ltr rowa carbon into reactor and turned it back on.

If all continues well I will add mm mud ,cheato and siporax back into sump filtration system.

Day 16 introduced mm mud and cheato back into sump but gave it a rinse with ro water before hand also added siporax back into sump and turned on rowaphos reactor to, sump light turned back on to.

Over the course of the treatment there were no adverse affects on the corals the fish or the inverts all are good the anenomone was the only thing that shrunk a little bit.

Fingers crossed everything is looking good time will tell last thing to do is ramp the lights up gradually .

Did you ever identify the species of Dinos you had using a microscope?
What has happened since the last post?
Would you recommend DinoX based on your results?
I am a month in on this fight which I initially mistook for Cyano and then diatoms. I did a posted identification test pouring siphoned water through a paper towel and after a few minutes under lights there was hairlike brown algae in what was once clear looking water. I have done lights out 2 times for 72 hours and dosed 1ml/10g of H2O2 for 3 days and still the rust colored scourge persists. I have lost a large Lobo, a small chalice and one of my older acans and a cyphestrea are showing signs of RTN. I am considering dinoX as my next step with lights out.

 

[Reefer-Dude1888]

Hi guys just thought I'd update well about a fortnight later I done a small water change and siphoned all sand in the tank to free it of any detritus,as every thing was still looking good but about 5 days later I started to get a fine brown dust on the sand and on the rock so I have now decided to dose nopox as my nitrates are down but still to high there about 30 ppm now phos is ok so nopox is next step as at the moment it isn't dinos ,so hoping to get nitrate under control and take it from there.

Azsoccerpops I found the dino x useful but I need to sort nitrates out now tried all the usual ways to eliminate nitrate nothing brought them down to required level and I've tried everything apart from the liquid carbon route so hopefully this works , hope this info helps

 

[bertoni]

Hmm, I hope the carbon dosing cleans up the sand and rock. Please keep us posted!