Dinoflagellates.

I have dinos and have been bare bottom since the beginning.

Two things I've noticed.

Dinos's and Cyano (as reported) can have some sort of symbiosis

Grows all over my rocks, corals and sides as well as on cyano.

Me too. If I look carefully at my cyano, there's tons of dino in there. Cyano is a notorious nitrogen fixer, and many strains of it are diazotrophic (don't need organic or inorganic N, can make it from dissolved gas) so the dino are probably snagging some free food.
 
Figured I'd jump on this post. Have a bad case of it,

things I've tried:

Sucking out all of the sand and going BB ---- No effect dinos cover glass bottom same as if it were sand.

Currently trying blackout treatment ---- On day 2 dinos still there but not growing, will suck all of them out after 4 day blackout and see what happens.

Going to install a sump on Saturday with a new eshopps skimmer and attach a coralife UV sterilizer to the return line and see if it does any damage.

Will keep updated.

I've been doing repeated 3 day blackouts. No effect until this current one, which was attempt 4. They're not gone by any means, but it knocked them back. Oddly enough the cyano is a lot worse.

I went to salt water from fresh to experience managing an ecosystem..this is NOT what I meant. Stupid learning experiences, lol

ivy
 
I treated mine in 3 different systems like this.

Dose chemiclean as directed
Add carbon
blow off with turkey baster daily
Change socks daily
Treat with Pohls Coral Snow with a few drops of MB7 or Zeobak daily. After about 3 weeks no more dino...

At the first sign of a bubble dose again with CS and ZB
 
What Phyto are you dosing?

I ordered the P&P package from algae barn, which should be here Thursday. I have a really small bio load in my 90 gallon. I have a Major Damsel and two Platinum Clowns. I have a Skimz monzter sm302 which I got to go on a larger tank when I upgrade and I think its just way to big for this tank and my bioload. It pulls a ton of gunk but it seems to impair my tanks balance. I never had dinos until I added it.
Check my post #1233 there are links to some of the critters I've been adding to my tank, I also culture and dose phytoplankton.
I went the dirty method.
I had Ostreopsis Ovata but now I'm dino free.
 
I've been doing repeated 3 day blackouts. No effect until this current one, which was attempt 4. They're not gone by any means, but it knocked them back. Oddly enough the cyano is a lot worse.

I went to salt water from fresh to experience managing an ecosystem..this is NOT what I meant. Stupid learning experiences, lol

ivy

Since Sunday, I have started feeding tons of frozen food (not rinsed), shut off my skimmer, I haven't done a water change in months or a test of any kind.

Thursday I am adding the phyto and pods from algaebarn and I am going to pick up pods / phyto near by.

Cleanup crew is pretty much a trochus snail and a peppermint shrimp. Not going to change anything there.
 
Check my post #1233 there are links to some of the critters I've been adding to my tank, I also culture and dose phytoplankton.
I went the dirty method.
I had Ostreopsis Ovata but now I'm dino free.

Thx, I saw that post and its where I got the idea.


How bad was the tank and how long did it take to clear up.

I'd say 75% of my tank is covered.


EDIT: your link to IPSF looks copied paste from your PODS+
And I have an order of pods, worms, stars coming from IPSF
http://www.reefcleaners.org/aquarium-store/pods

I found http://ipsf.com/
 
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Since Sunday, I have started feeding tons of frozen food (not rinsed), shut off my skimmer, I haven't done a water change in months or a test of any kind.

Thursday I am adding the phyto and pods from algaebarn and I am going to pick up pods / phyto near by.

Cleanup crew is pretty much a trochus snail and a peppermint shrimp. Not going to change anything there.

I hope that works for you!
Feeding makes mine worse, but then I seem to have a really toxic strain. Whenever I siphon off more than 1/4 of the tank, I see waves of dead pods, bristleworms, etc. This is running fresh carbon, filterfloss, filter socks, skimming very wet. Microfauna no doubt the way to go, just find me a company who'll ship to Canada. :o

Did discover this morning that my hermit crab is in fact alive, he just moulted and switched shells. Don't know what the poor thing is eating in there, but go crabby!

ivy
 
I treated mine in 3 different systems like this.

Dose chemiclean as directed
Add carbon
blow off with turkey baster daily
Change socks daily
Treat with Pohls Coral Snow with a few drops of MB7 or Zeobak daily. After about 3 weeks no more dino...

At the first sign of a bubble dose again with CS and ZB

This is the Zeovit people's coral snow? I see a couple of brands with that name.

ivy
 
I hope that works for you!
Feeding makes mine worse, but then I seem to have a really toxic strain. Whenever I siphon off more than 1/4 of the tank, I see waves of dead pods, bristleworms, etc. This is running fresh carbon, filterfloss, filter socks, skimming very wet. Microfauna no doubt the way to go, just find me a company who'll ship to Canada. :o

Did discover this morning that my hermit crab is in fact alive, he just moulted and switched shells. Don't know what the poor thing is eating in there, but go crabby!

ivy

I am not runny any mechanical filtration and I haven't fed my tank in months.

I already had some green film algae growing where dinos and cyano are. So hopefully i can get more of it.

I also did an order for Reef Pods and Pods + from reef cleaners.

I am considering a lights out once I start adding the pods, phyto etc.
 
How do I post a question

Are you trying to post a new topic of your own? When you're at the main subforum page, Eg "reef chemistry forum" where it lists all the questions, look above the list. There's a button called 'new thread'. Click that.

hope that helps a bit,
ivy
 
I just browsed through dozens of dino threads on the internet.
If you have seen a similar or better dino thread than this one please post a link.
 
Thx, I saw that post and its where I got the idea.


How bad was the tank and how long did it take to clear up.

I'd say 75% of my tank is covered.


EDIT: your link to IPSF looks copied paste from your PODS+
And I have an order of pods, worms, stars coming from IPSF
http://www.reefcleaners.org/aquarium-store/pods

I found http://ipsf.com/
Early on my tank was covered about 50%, the rocks and corals were 75% covered and the sand bed about 30%, It was stringy, snotty and had bubbles in it, I started blowing it off and vacuuming a couple times a day and filtering the water and putting it back in.
My battle was about 1 year but the beginning of the end of it was a couple months ago when I let it go dirty and started rebuilding my micro fauna and clean up crew.
 
Ok, when is it safe to add all the tiny critters ( pods, phyto, what else is recommended?) after Dino's start to recede after dirtying tank
 
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