divers den 8 1/2 achilles
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Like Tim & Jeremy said, it's not like it's hanging out by himself in a 300 at LA. Too risky not to.
jnc914
Active member
I QT'ed my last Achilles for 4 months in a 40 gallon Breeder with a ton of flow. I had him for almost two years and was forced to sell because of aggression. You definitely do not need a huge QT tank. However you do definitely need to QT this fish. Mine came from Diver's Den into a clean, mature QT and it had ich within 4 days. After the QT period it was bullet proof.
skibum9884
Active member
do you have the fish yet? let's see some pictures!
Fish Dog
New member
If it came directly from Hawaii straight from the ocean to your tank, it probably would need QT, but since it's coming from Diver Den it's probably in good health and clean.
AT's need to go in the best tank you have avaliable, and that's the DT.
The best chance you have is going directly into the DT with this particular tang. Even if you QT, once you put him/her in the DT, it may get ich then too.
1+ for DT
AT's need to go in the best tank you have avaliable, and that's the DT.
The best chance you have is going directly into the DT with this particular tang. Even if you QT, once you put him/her in the DT, it may get ich then too.
1+ for DT
Fish dog that made no sense. No offense. JNC just stated how his achilles came down with ich within four days from DD. Also the people at the DD don't guarantee their fish to be disease free, so you should still quarantine.
That is wrong, unless you do your QT wrong, or put the fish in with fish that haven't been QT, then it can still get ich, but if you QT right it should not have ich coming out of QT.
SMOOTHIE
Premium Member
Read post #22. Ich in 4 days! You can't get ich in the display unless it is already in there or you did not qt properly.
+1 to getting a cheap 55 for a qt. Easy thing to resell or stash in the attic for later use.
Unless you did not QT previous fish, in which case the display could be the one with ich not the new addition.
IMHO It is your tank and your money. I hate to see a rare AT of this size perish because of not QTing. When QT is done right, especially with a DD fish, you will get an exceptional specimen......... or you could just toss a 300 dollar fish in the display and cross your fingers like many others have suggestion.
This dead horse has officially been beat.
IMHO It is your tank and your money. I hate to see a rare AT of this size perish because of not QTing. When QT is done right, especially with a DD fish, you will get an exceptional specimen......... or you could just toss a 300 dollar fish in the display and cross your fingers like many others have suggestion.
This dead horse has officially been beat.
ich is a heavily debated topic. Some will argue that ich is always present on fish no matter what you treat with, and cannot ever be totally eradicated. Then there's the other crowd who think that ich can be eliminated by copper based meds and all their worries are gone. I personally think that fish can still get ich later on down the road even if they have been treated with copper meds in a QT for several weeks. This is obviously a two-sided discussion and some feel strongly towards display tank in this situation, while others vie for QT.
Since it came from DD i would QT. Chances are it will adapt better than a fresh caught achilles.
Put it in the largest QT tank you can get your hands on. IMO
Good luck!!
OK so one QT achilles has survived. Any more? I would like to hear of them so we can better inform the primer. Proof is in the pudding.
Put it in the largest QT tank you can get your hands on. IMO
Good luck!!
OK so one QT achilles has survived. Any more? I would like to hear of them so we can better inform the primer. Proof is in the pudding.
Fish Dog
New member
What I am saying is, that it's better to get it from Diver Den because they are a reputable company regardless of what they guarantee. (Good husbandries).
Not sure if you have keep an AT before??? BUT most people with AT's has had a bout with ich at some point.
WE are talking about an Achilles tang and the best survival rate. DT vs QT!
Everyone has their own opinion, but in this situation, mtbiker41 should listen to people who have had experience with this tang!
From a AT keeper!
Not sure if you have keep an AT before??? BUT most people with AT's has had a bout with ich at some point.
WE are talking about an Achilles tang and the best survival rate. DT vs QT!
Everyone has their own opinion, but in this situation, mtbiker41 should listen to people who have had experience with this tang!
From a AT keeper!
ac tang
ac tang
ok guys the ac is shipping out today should be here tomorrow .they have put off due to weather conditions an extra day.tried to get them to wait until next week until weather may be a little better but they won't .the memphis fed ex has screwed up several fish orders lately.my lfs said they lost his whole shipment and lost all fish over a 1000.00 worth,they screwed up my brother in laws big clown trigger and it died .so as of right now it should be here tomorrow.I'll take some pics afterwards and post up.thanks for all the advice,and I guess I'm going take caution try to qt and not risk my existing livestocks health.mtbiker41
ac tang
ok guys the ac is shipping out today should be here tomorrow .they have put off due to weather conditions an extra day.tried to get them to wait until next week until weather may be a little better but they won't .the memphis fed ex has screwed up several fish orders lately.my lfs said they lost his whole shipment and lost all fish over a 1000.00 worth,they screwed up my brother in laws big clown trigger and it died .so as of right now it should be here tomorrow.I'll take some pics afterwards and post up.thanks for all the advice,and I guess I'm going take caution try to qt and not risk my existing livestocks health.mtbiker41
Smart man!
hybridazn
New member
please keep us posted! best of luck to you and your new prize fish!!
jmaneyapanda
Commencing hatred
As I stated earlier, my achilles survived 4 weeks of QT in a 29.
You are buying it from DD. Here is there advice directly.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/PIC/article.cfm?aid=205
http://www.liveaquaria.com/PIC/article.cfm?aid=205
readmeli
Do you see me SMIZING?
And here's a blog post by Kevin Kohen about why you should always quarantine:
http://www.dfs-pet-blog.com/2009/10/marine-aquarium/
Along with another about Ich & Marine Velvet:
http://www.dfs-pet-blog.com/2010/01/ich/
-Melissa
http://www.dfs-pet-blog.com/2009/10/marine-aquarium/
Along with another about Ich & Marine Velvet:
http://www.dfs-pet-blog.com/2010/01/ich/
-Melissa
sufunk
New member
Good luck and DEFINITELY post some pics of that beauty!
8 1/2 inch Achilles!?!?! Damn! I'm so jealous!!!
dd ac tang
dd ac tang
well just got my shipping confirmation its on the way,lets just hope fed ex doesn't screw this one up.I did a water change and filled the 55,put about 25 lbs of live rock from dt and 4" pvc t.I also have I also have caribsea live sand that is new should I throw a bag of that in there .I also have some sand that was taken out of another system a couple months ago .which one would be best to use or neither ?also put some stabile from seachem in there .any other recommendations to do.
dd ac tang
well just got my shipping confirmation its on the way,lets just hope fed ex doesn't screw this one up.I did a water change and filled the 55,put about 25 lbs of live rock from dt and 4" pvc t.I also have I also have caribsea live sand that is new should I throw a bag of that in there .I also have some sand that was taken out of another system a couple months ago .which one would be best to use or neither ?also put some stabile from seachem in there .any other recommendations to do.
I would just use PVC in a bare tank. I guess the rock wont hurt, but remove it if you have to medicate or it will be ruined.
