DIY Live Rock?

As long as you know the recipe you can make any shape and size but only thing this that it takes longer period to cure the rock and take the saltout completely before you add this in your tank.. But if you have time and patient then yes it is very cost effective....
 
Scares the heck out of me, what if it leaches something crazy toxic, I can get dry live rock for a lot less then 5 a pound and that is still ocean made goodness

Just my .02
 
DIY rock was a lot more worthwhile when you could get southdown sand @ $5 / 50lbs.

It can be fun project, but it takes a good bit of practice (think hundreds of lbs of sand and whatever other ingredients) to get good at.
 
I'd like to see someone DIYing some of the ceramic stuff. That looks like a really neat project and way simpler once you find someplace to fire it for you, but I've not been able find a single thread on anyone doing it.
 
Would it be safe in doing something like this and is it any cheaper than $5.00lb?

Yes and yes.

Scares the heck out of me, what if it leaches something crazy toxic, I can get dry live rock for a lot less then 5 a pound and that is still ocean made goodness

Just my .02

Nothing toxic if you use the right materials and I can make rock for less then $0.40 a pound.

I saved my .02 and then some. :)



DIY rock was a lot more worthwhile when you could get southdown sand @ $5 / 50lbs.

It can be fun project, but it takes a good bit of practice (think hundreds of lbs of sand and whatever other ingredients) to get good at.

I don't use sand in my recipe.

It took me two rocks worth of practice to figure out how to make it less dense and more natural looking. Maybe it's a bit of an artistic skill (but there are several others that have done better rock than mine). Mix the recipe to a cottage cheese consistency and don't pack it when you're forming the rock are the keys to success.

For what it's worth, here is my recipe.

1 part Portland Cement
2 parts crushed coral or crushed limestone or crushed oyster shell
1 part salt (I know some people don't like using rock salt but it's always worked out for me, you just need to know you can't make rock too thin using it.)

And this is my tank with 100% DIY rock (and pond foam to bind it all together). These are old shots before stocking to showcase the rockwork.

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And here is the mother of all threads on the subject but really, the first 20 pages are all you need. Don't even bother with the 4 splits, trust me, I did and you don't want to go there.

The Ultimate DIY Rocks!
 
DIY rock was a lot more worthwhile when you could get southdown sand @ $5 / 50lbs.

It can be fun project, but it takes a good bit of practice (think hundreds of lbs of sand and whatever other ingredients) to get good at.

Would it surprise you to know that Southdown sand was kept in piles outdoors, (before it was bagged for sale,) and oiled to keep it from blowing away?
 
Yes and yes.



Nothing toxic if you use the right materials and I can make rock for less then $0.40 a pound.

For what it's worth, here is my recipe.

1 part Portland Cement
2 parts crushed coral or crushed limestone or crushed oyster shell
1 part salt (I know some people don't like using rock salt but it's always worked out for me, you just need to know you can't make rock too thin using it.)

Portland Cement is a generic term for a type of cement produced by grinding clinker into a fine powder, with a little added gypsum. There are many different types of Portland cement. The word "cement" is usually taken to mean Portland cement. When searching for cement to make your own rock, Portland Cement is not enough information.

Low alkalinity type White Portland Cement is the proper material.

Crushed oyster shell, is chock full of nitrates, phosphates, and has such a high alkalinity, the only aquarium use for it is high alkalinity tanks for African Cichlids, it is also used to feed chickens....its popularity is due to its being cheap.

Rock salt is ambiguous, and an enigma. It does nothing useful, in terms of the rock, and crystals inside the rock will not dissolve. Or seeings how water does not flow through the rock, if it does dissolve, it will dissolve very slowly.

Most folks get offended, when given the original DIY rock recipe, before it was spread via forums:

1 part White Portland Cement (low alkalinity type, Riverside suggested)
5 parts aragonite sand (seaflor special grade)
1 part acrylic shavings

Naturally porus (if mixed right)
Cures rapidly (pH stabilizes)
Inert, leaches nothing (no nitrates, phosphates or other "nasties")
 
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So I found this video that has caught my attention and now I'm curious... I want to know if most live rock we use in a aquarium today is man made or not. Would it be safe in doing something like this and is it any cheaper than $5.00lb?
Youtube Video URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFFFJJAtmbE

What do you guys think? = P

Most live rock used in aquariums today is nowhere close to being "Live." Some algae, and bacteria does not make 'live rock.' Merely big brown bio balls, that you can attach corals too. What is left after all the live, dies. Such rock will not become "live" in a closed system eitherโ€”unless you are amongst the lucky ones that cultured seed stock over the years...

The only "live rock" you can get today, is stuff that was quarried from terrestrial sources, and thrown in the ocean for a couple of years. Cost is high, and it is nowhere near in "live" to the live rock of days gone by. That said, I am a firm believer that the natural reefs need to be protected. It is more than possible to grow a reef without taking ANYTHING out of the ocean... descendants of such, yes...DIY rock is just the tip of the iceberg...
 

Yeah, I'd like to find out what they actually use for that. I think it'd be a neat DIY project to sculpt something myself and I'd imagine that I could get one of the local pottery places to fire it for me for a fee. No idea where that'd come in on the cost comparison scale, but if you're the type that likes the feeling of making something yourself I think it'd be rewarding.
 
Most folks get offended, when given the original DIY rock recipe, before it was spread via forums:

1 part White Portland Cement (low alkalinity type, Riverside suggested)
5 parts aragonite sand (seaflor special grade)
1 part acrylic shavings

Out of curiosity what do the acrylic shavings offer that the sand or a larger grain sand doesn't?
 
Out of curiosity what do the acrylic shavings offer that the sand or a larger grain sand doesn't?

It is a filler: lighter weight, without affecting strength. But notice the ratio of aggragate. 5:2. The recipe was forumified to get around the cost of aragonite, but pound for pound, this recipe is cheaper than rock taken from the ocean.
 
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It is a filler: lighter weight, without affecting strength. But notice the ratio of aggragate. 5:2. The recipe was forumified to get around the cost of aragonite, but pound for pound, this recipe is cheaper than rock taken from the ocean.

Where do you get acrylic shavings and any other types of sand that you would suggest using safely?
 

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