travismcgee
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wish i were at steel point, west end today...been there...'bout as nice as it gets
Doing it right... from the start (for a change)
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mille239
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integlikewhoainteglikewhoa: glass tanks don't normally leak, But there are always exceptions to the rule. What I don't understand is people who buy acrylic tanks, scratch the heck out of them, then go out & buy another acrylic.
Many glass tanks last 10 yrs+.... long after the clarity of an acrylic is gone and it's scratched to bejezus..... now I know there are benifits to both, but in all my years of both glass and acrylic aquariums (up to a 250 FOWLR).. one leak is not going to deter me... Glass/Acrylic is a debate that may never end, but it comes down to personal preference. if it makes ya happy either way.. go for it I say.
travismcgee : Yes it is paradise down there isn't it?? spent 10 days bareboating and diving the islands last Feb. and dyin to go back... good eye! (and I will own that house one day)
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Many glass tanks last 10 yrs+.... long after the clarity of an acrylic is gone and it's scratched to bejezus..... now I know there are benifits to both, but in all my years of both glass and acrylic aquariums (up to a 250 FOWLR).. one leak is not going to deter me... Glass/Acrylic is a debate that may never end, but it comes down to personal preference. if it makes ya happy either way.. go for it I say.
travismcgee : Yes it is paradise down there isn't it?? spent 10 days bareboating and diving the islands last Feb. and dyin to go back... good eye! (and I will own that house one day)
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integlikewhoa
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I agree it might take owning 2 tanks for one of them to leak. But i still find they do leak alot. And a scratch is easy repaired. Matter of 10 min actually. Takes about the same time to do a water change. A leak usally means a new tank like in your case. But i can sleep at night with a scratch not a leak.
It might be also beacuse i expect earthquakes over here. Good luck with the tank and keep us posted.
It might be also beacuse i expect earthquakes over here. Good luck with the tank and keep us posted.
mille239
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Not much new... Called on the tank today.. Found out there was a "discrepency" i.e. 2 more weeks... I'm glad I'm not waiting on a heart transplant from this store...
Anywho.. got my box-o-plumbing parts today from Savko
I think there there might be an elbow missing..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
now if I can just remember what is supposed to go where...
Anywho.. got my box-o-plumbing parts today from Savko
I think there there might be an elbow missing..... :lol: :lol: :lol:
now if I can just remember what is supposed to go where...
mille239
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The location of the new aquarium.....
Note that the old reef was in place before the walls were painted, and the new floor was put in. Since the new tank will be built into the wall, approximately 1 foot out from the old one none of these overlooked details will be noticeable.
(Also note, the charred spot on the wall where a return hose on the 29g had come loose from the sea swirl awhile back, dumping water onto my wave-timer and causing a small fire) oops. :eek1:
I was able to get the bottom frame support started tonight before I got too tired. Only so many hours in the day.
Note that the old reef was in place before the walls were painted, and the new floor was put in. Since the new tank will be built into the wall, approximately 1 foot out from the old one none of these overlooked details will be noticeable.
(Also note, the charred spot on the wall where a return hose on the 29g had come loose from the sea swirl awhile back, dumping water onto my wave-timer and causing a small fire) oops. :eek1:
I was able to get the bottom frame support started tonight before I got too tired. Only so many hours in the day.
mille239
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A little bit further tonight....
I used what I could from the old stand, hence some of the 2x6's are black.
I still have to put the corner legs in place, and there will be a plywood bottom and top, before painting and sealing... I calculated the volume of the lower base once the plywood floor is in, and it will be able to hold 45.5 gallons of spillage (minus the space occupied by the sump, skimmer, etc..) hopefully I will never have to test out that capacity.
I used what I could from the old stand, hence some of the 2x6's are black.
I still have to put the corner legs in place, and there will be a plywood bottom and top, before painting and sealing... I calculated the volume of the lower base once the plywood floor is in, and it will be able to hold 45.5 gallons of spillage (minus the space occupied by the sump, skimmer, etc..) hopefully I will never have to test out that capacity.
Tagging along with a few questions..
I only see one electrical socket in the window-side wall, will you be adding a line?
What are your plans for the baseboard heat? You've cut the frame around it, so I assume your stand will be "heated" during the winter? Just wondering what you've decided about it, as I'm sure you've considered it during planning and construction.
I like the refugium placement, next to the display, instead of under it. Do you have a drawing/plan of your plumbing?
Wish I had the time/space/money for an unintentional upgrade!
Regards,
Marty
I only see one electrical socket in the window-side wall, will you be adding a line?
What are your plans for the baseboard heat? You've cut the frame around it, so I assume your stand will be "heated" during the winter? Just wondering what you've decided about it, as I'm sure you've considered it during planning and construction.
I like the refugium placement, next to the display, instead of under it. Do you have a drawing/plan of your plumbing?
Wish I had the time/space/money for an unintentional upgrade!
Regards,
Marty
integlikewhoa
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Agree about the electrical outlet. I only see one. I think more will be required but if your not useing a chiller you just might get away with only one. Just something to think about if you already havent done so.
The Reefer91
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i'm gonna tag along. another thing you should do is use foam under the tank when you put it on it's stand. helps correct evenness on the stand
cool gizmos by the way. i plan on ordering from hellolights too
cool gizmos by the way. i plan on ordering from hellolights too
reverendmaynard
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Looks good so far.
I'm anxiously awaiting word on how well the pulley system works for the canopy!
I'm anxiously awaiting word on how well the pulley system works for the canopy!
mille239
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Regarding the eectrical, it will be run off 2 separate circuit breakers from the main house, which will come in through the single outlet shown and routed to the power panel I am building.
As far as the plumbing... well I have it all on paper, but here is a quick VERY ROUGH sketch.... (all unions, ball valves, gate valves have been omitted because I am at work and need to be doing other things right now)... :lol:
The Reefer91 As far as foam, I have heard both sides of the story, but am not going to use it.. I wrote to all-glass and they told me directly that contrary to what people believe, they don't recommend it for their tanks. The top of the stand will be covered with 3/4" plywood, so that should account for any minor flaws, though the stand is very level and even. (I started a thread on here somewhere about whether I should use foam.. just search for foam and all-glass)
Fish'InMN With regard to the base board heat, I am going to wrap the portion that extends into the stand with insulator, and with the help of two exhaust fans that will be mounted on the celing inside the enclosure, blowing any excess heat outside, I don't think I'll have a heat problem (my other built in tank has hot water pipes running through the enclosure with no insulation on them, and the temp isn't really an issue.
reverendmaynard As soon as I finish framing in the enclosure (tonight or tomorrow) I will be installing the pulley system on the celing... sorry to keep you waiting
:rollface:
Thanks for the comments everyone!
As far as the plumbing... well I have it all on paper, but here is a quick VERY ROUGH sketch.... (all unions, ball valves, gate valves have been omitted because I am at work and need to be doing other things right now)... :lol:
The Reefer91 As far as foam, I have heard both sides of the story, but am not going to use it.. I wrote to all-glass and they told me directly that contrary to what people believe, they don't recommend it for their tanks. The top of the stand will be covered with 3/4" plywood, so that should account for any minor flaws, though the stand is very level and even. (I started a thread on here somewhere about whether I should use foam.. just search for foam and all-glass)
Fish'InMN With regard to the base board heat, I am going to wrap the portion that extends into the stand with insulator, and with the help of two exhaust fans that will be mounted on the celing inside the enclosure, blowing any excess heat outside, I don't think I'll have a heat problem (my other built in tank has hot water pipes running through the enclosure with no insulation on them, and the temp isn't really an issue.
reverendmaynard As soon as I finish framing in the enclosure (tonight or tomorrow) I will be installing the pulley system on the celing... sorry to keep you waiting
:rollface:
Thanks for the comments everyone!
mille239
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I was able to finish the framing tonight, as well as build the shell of the power panel. All I have left on the stand before painting is to put in the center piece of ply on which the display will sit, as well as the floor of the stand on the bottom. I am quite happy with the results.
Does anyone know of a good paint that will seal the stand (white) without having to prime the whole thing first?
Does anyone know of a good paint that will seal the stand (white) without having to prime the whole thing first?
mille239
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Also, does anyone know where one could find a taller square-shaped resevoir I can use for top-off, with a base no greater than 15" x 15" and a height under 30" It is an odd shape I know, but with a 90 gallon sump, space underneath the display is actually going to be limited.
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