Dream Fish stocking list for 125g

[travis32]

Any thoughts on compatability issues with fish / coral / invert combinations? Is this an understock or overstock wish list including the current stock?
Any agression and/ or territorial issues? :dance:


Current stocking:

1 Sleeper Goby
1 Marine Betta
1 Oscellaris Clown (Unsure of survival at this time)

Wish List (after hours of analysis)

1. If Clown dies, replacing with 2 Black and white percs, if lives adding another oscelleris)

2. Orange black Fairy Wrasse

3. Blue Caribbean tang

4. Green Mandarin

5. Orchid Dottyback (maybe)

6. Scissortail dart fish X 2 (maybe)

7. Chalk Bass X 2

8. Yellow Pyramid Butterfly fish

9. Starry Blenny

10. Wartskin Angler

11. Bellas Angel fish.

12. Trapezia Crab (Compatability with fish?)

13. Maximus clam (X 2 possibly)

14. sand dollar

15. Tube Anenome

16. Tiger tail sea cucumber.

17. Fighing Conch

18. Abelone tropical snail.

19. Either a heart Urchin or purple short spine pincushion urchin


Corals:

Mixed reef of brains, frogspawns, mushrooms, and other SPS and LPS corals.

 

[tcmfish]

Leave out the angler and the black and white clowns are occelaris.

 

[clayspst]

the angler will make short work of your small fish

 

[travis32]

Heh. wife loves the angler.. She said he's so ugly he's cute.. I agree though.. The betta is sufficient enough at eating small fish. (ate a very small signal goby whole..)

everything else appears to be compatable and acceptable? Wow. I was expecting more criticism.

Thanks for the reccomendation!

 

[albano]

Wish List (after hours of analysis)

3. Blue Caribbean tang Have been told that they become VERY aggresive
5. Orchid Dottyback (maybe) Aggressive
6. Scissortail dart fish X 2 (maybe) Jumpers...need cover
7. Chalk Bass X 2 2 might be a problem
10. Wartskin Angler no way
12. Trapezia Crab (Compatability with fish?) not sure
14. sand dollar will you ever see it?
15. Tube Anenome fish killer
17. Fighing Conch never see it
19. Either a heart Urchin or purple short spine pincushion urchin knock everything over

 

[whorulz1147]

the Trapezia crab needs a SPS coral host to thrive. You could probably do the dottyback or the dartfish, but not both. Sand dollars do not do well in captivity. It is good that you are doing your research and asking questions- it shows that you actually care about the creatures that you intend to keep...

-al-

 

[travis32]

Thanks. I care very much, and well, so does the wallet!!! (Not a limitless supply here, and at $20 to $100 a pop. I'm not just going to get something to watch it die or have $100 meals in my tank.)

Thanks for the info on the sand dollars, I hadn't heard much of them and were going through and saw they were kinda neat on liveaquaria. Not looking to throw dollars out the window though (no pun intended...)

As to the Blue Caribbean tang, I used the new tang list posted here (in the stickies) to help us decide. We narrowed it down to 5 or 6 we could have in a 6ft 125g. And by far loved the blue one, the others were more bland at least online. Live aquaria lists them as: blue Caribbean Tang (Acanthurus coeruleus):
Care Level: Moderate
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: Yes

Not saying live aquaria is right. Anyone actually have one of these that can speak to agression? I don't mind opinions, I just would like to know before spending $40 - 60 on him.

I plan to possibly order 2 (maybe 3) fish and some corals between Christmas and New years.

I like the idea of urchins, but yes, my rockwork is very delicate and not glued down and my betta likes to spend time under it. So, if it caved in because of an urchin, he would not be a happy camper...

I plan to do some of the inverts -- clams, Anemone of some type, last. Undecided on the anemone. They sound like a pain and nightmare if they get into something they shouldn't.

I have a canopy that's enclosed on 3 sides. I was planning on putting up window screen on the back of the canpy to prevent jumpers. Question though, can they jump into like halide bulbs and fry? The lights are about 8" - 10" above the water under the canopy.

And yes, I'll forgo the wartsking angler.

 

[albano]

As to the Blue Caribbean tang, I used the new tang list posted here (in the stickies) to help us decide. We narrowed it down to 5 or 6 we could have in a 6ft 125g. And by far loved the blue one, the others were more bland at least online. Live aquaria lists them as: blue Caribbean Tang (Acanthurus coeruleus):
Care Level: Moderate
Temperament: Peaceful
Reef Compatible: Yes

Not saying live aquaria is right. Anyone actually have one of these that can speak to agression? I don't mind opinions, I just would like to know before spending $40 - 60 on him.

Lifted this quote from Manhattan Reefs, someone there recently had a thread about Carib. Tang

... Atlantic Blue tangs are gorgeous, especially when they're juvies! Word of caution from a guy who has not only had a few, but have also collected his own: They are extremely aggressive, scrappy, and usually won't rest until they either get killed or they become the new king of the tank! They're cheap in Miami because most people don't want to deal with them.
+'s: they are voracious when it comes to problem algae, and don't hide. Beautiful!
-'s: aggressive as hell, especially towards tangs. Territorial towards everybody else.

 

[travis32]

Thanks for the information, very much appreciated, I will definately head the advise. That may be why they're so cheap on LA then.

Well, I've narrowed it down to two more. I'm open to other suggestions of colorful and peaceful tangs that may not be listed in the tang sticky or LA.

The two I narrowed it down to are either:

Acanthurus japonicus - Aka Powder brown tang. (not sure how colorful they actually are?)

Acanthurus tennenti - Aka Leitenant Tang (Not sure how colorful this guy is.)

Thanks again!

 

[fjr_wertheimber]

You'll LOVE the Powder Brown Tang, Acanthurus japonicus! That was my fave fish on my old tank, loved him, great personality, and BEAUTIFUL fish... Please be careful and do your research before buying, because a lot of fish stores will sell Acanthurus nigricans mislabeled as Acanthurus japonicus, and they're a lot more fragile, not as pretty, and much pickier eaters...

 

[travis32]

Thanks!

 

[tcmfish]

I agree Acanthurus japonicus would be better. Atlantic blue tangs get large and in charge. They are cheap because they are collected a lot closer to home. People in Asia pay A LOT more for Caribbean fish than we do, but we pay more for fish collected overseas. I think Atlantic Blue tangs are good fish for the right set up, but they just get big, especially after you see them diving you realize how big they get!

 

[scrambler1880]

"17. Fighing Conch never see it"

I have two fighting conchs and they are by far my favorite motile inverts... they bury themselves fairly well and will stay hidden for up to 5 days at a time but then will "wake up" and browse the tank for another 3-5 days before burying themselves again.

when they are awake they keep my sand pristine efficiently vacuuming up every bit of algae etc... off the bed

one prefers not to bury and will instead hide in one of the two caves in my rockwork... even when hidden will keep watchful eye on tankmates via one or two eyes sticking up out of sand :fun2:

 

[travis32]

Cool on the fighting conchs.

Any info on whether spiny star astrea snails actually eat GHA??

So, as far as the tang, is there combination of 2 colorful tangs that would be o.k. in a 125g?

 

[anbosu]

Cool on the fighting conchs.

Any info on whether spiny star astrea snails actually eat GHA??

So, as far as the tang, is there combination of 2 colorful tangs that would be o.k. in a 125g?

You could try a yellow and a kole tang. They both stay a reasonable size and are pretty colorful.