drummereef's 180g in-wall build

Here's a link
http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1830106&highlight=algae+id

This was the only 1 I found. There actually another thread were Paul confirmed what it was but I can't seem to find it.

Man, after looking at your pics again I swear it's the same stuff. I appreciate the link and I've read through it. Good info there. I did some more research and it could be the original Lignite Carbon I was using was creating fines that were making it into the tank. Boomer said some fish are more sensitive to carbon dust than others, sometimes manifesting as HLLE or MHLLE and various other issues. Really makes me wonder if it was the carbon that did it. Either way he's still not eating and I can tell he's losing weight. Don't know how long he can keep it up but I hope he pulls through this. I changed out the carbon again tonight using ROX 0.8. Fingers crossed...



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Thanks for the link Vlado. :)
 
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UPDATE:


As promised (thank you Greenmaster :D), pics of the new Cleaner Wrasse. Little guy moves freakishly fast so I did my best to get a couple decent shots. ;)



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Here you can see the Cleaner Wrasse attempting to clean the gills of the Yellow Tang. So far the tang isn't too excited about the idea but hopefully he'll give in. :)


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I blame carbon on my tangs having HLLE. Since that happened, I always run the effluent through micromesh filter bags to decrease the fines that make it into the water. Although, it is too late for the HLLE as it is already there now:(
 
I always ran carbon (not in reactors) but in a bag in my sump baffles in past. And had the same yellow tang for at least 4 years w/o issues....

is the reactors adding more "dust" to the water? did i not have the tangs long enuf??

I had other tangs, naso & pacific blue, but only 3 yrs at most. Also never got HLLE
 
The bag helps keep the fines out. Tumbling carbon in a reactor does tend to add "fines" to the water column. Add to this, changing carbon out monthly and large amounts and you can see where the carbon can get in the water.
 
I blame carbon on my tangs having HLLE. Since that happened, I always run the effluent through micromesh filter bags to decrease the fines that make it into the water. Although, it is too late for the HLLE as it is already there now:(

Im thinking the same thing about mine. Its not bad but theres something there. Sometimes I also wonder if the copper I QTd him with is blame. Im starting to think that there are multiple causes which is why nobody can really pinpoint one.
 
The bag helps keep the fines out. Tumbling carbon in a reactor does tend to add "fines" to the water column. Add to this, changing carbon out monthly and large amounts and you can see where the carbon can get in the water.

Is there a preferredor better carbon for the reactors?
 
I heard cleaner wrasses can give your other fish ick by constantly trying to clean them. Constantly being bothered causes stress, which causes ick...Thats what I heard.
 
I routing for ya!

Thanks Green! :)

skunk cleaner shrimp love to clean the fishes...and they look sweet too!

Already got one. :D

I blame carbon on my tangs having HLLE. Since that happened, I always run the effluent through micromesh filter bags to decrease the fines that make it into the water. Although, it is too late for the HLLE as it is already there now:(

Hmmm, this is even more interesting Nook. I might have to employ that micromesh filter bag idea of yours. What carbon do you use? I've been using ROX lately and it seems it's quite a bit less dusty than even the Lignite.

Im thinking the same thing about mine. Its not bad but theres something there. Sometimes I also wonder if the copper I QTd him with is blame. Im starting to think that there are multiple causes which is why nobody can really pinpoint one.

Same here, it's really hard to find a direct cause for many diseases imo. Bob Fenner wasn't even positive about my tang, that should say something... ;)

Is there a preferredor better carbon for the reactors?

I'm only going to be running ROX 0.8 from now on. I had tried the Lignite Carbon but it's a lot more dusty than ROX. :)

I heard cleaner wrasses can give your other fish ick by constantly trying to clean them. Constantly being bothered causes stress, which causes ick...Thats what I heard.

They can be a bother I'm sure but I'm going to try and keep this one feed and fat. Hopefully that will subdue his urge to constantly peck around the other fish. He loves Rod's, goes crazy for it. When I bring the baster up to the tank he swims up and waits for it. Definitely a cool fish but we'll see how it goes. :)
 
UPDATE:


Got a new toy today. The Hanna Checker Phosphate Photometer. It's apparently all the rage in low-range phosphate testing. Here's the results. :)


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What the heck? 0.00 phosphates are you kidding me? This is after 2 tests. First one was 0.02 (which may have been flawed since I was learning to use it), second was 0.00 as shown below. If my nitrates are <1 ppm and phosphates are 0.00 ppm, TDS is 000 from RO/DI what is fueling the algae?


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Meter reads inorganic phosphate. There will still be organic phosphate that you can not test for (at least this is what I have read). Also, algae like you are dealing with can uptake phosphate quicker than we can measure it, or something like that:D

I use BRS lignite carbon and a LOT of it, but have considered trying the ROX due to the lower dust content. I wonder if ROX can work longer than the lignite to offset its higher cost?
 
Sexy meter by the way:) Is the precision +/- .04 on that one like my Hanna meter? If so, you could read .00-.04 for a zero reading.
 
Meter reads inorganic phosphate. There will still be organic phosphate that you can not test for (at least this is what I have read). Also, algae like you are dealing with can uptake phosphate quicker than we can measure it, or something like that:D

I use BRS lignite carbon and a LOT of it, but have considered trying the ROX due to the lower dust content. I wonder if ROX can work longer than the lignite to offset its higher cost?

Sexy meter by the way:) Is the precision +/- .04 on that one like my Hanna meter? If so, you could read .00-.04 for a zero reading.


Yes, the ROX carbon is supposed to last a little longer and also the dosage is basically cut in half of what you would normally use in Lignite. I forgot the meter has a +/- 0.04 tolerance - this is correct, thanks for the reminder. Could be all the above of what you said I'm sure. :)
 
Please try this. I had the same kind of algea problem. The algea you have does not feed on phosphates nor nitrates. It feeds on nutriunts. My nitrates and phosphates were zero too. Running a big skimmer, carbon and GFO. Someone told me to try out a product called Special Blend. They swore it would fix my problem. It did !!! Special Blend is nothing but a live bacteria. It eats away unwanted nutriunts in the tank and in the rocks. Try it and see if it helps. Make sure when you add it, your wife is not home and hold your noise. It is very bad smelling. Just trying to help.
 
Please try this. I had the same kind of algea problem. The algea you have does not feed on phosphates nor nitrates. It feeds on nutriunts. My nitrates and phosphates were zero too. Running a big skimmer, carbon and GFO. Someone told me to try out a product called Special Blend. They swore it would fix my problem. It did !!! Special Blend is nothing but a live bacteria. It eats away unwanted nutriunts in the tank and in the rocks. Try it and see if it helps. Make sure when you add it, your wife is not home and hold your noise. It is very bad smelling. Just trying to help.

Thanks Darrell. :) I think that stuff is just a blend of bacteria to help boost the system. I was going to dose Brightwell MB7, which is probably similar, but was advised not to since I'm running the bio pellets. Dosing extra bacteria can cause bacteria blooms while running bio pellets. Basically I'm doing the same thing but culturing my own bacteria in the reactor. I'll look into it though.
 
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