Dwarf Angels and Reefs

[zach0660]

I am thinking about purchasing a Flame Angel for my 65g reef and I was wondering what successes you have had with dwarf angels in reef tanks.

 

[SDguy]

I think it's a total crap shoot. I had a pair of argi angels (supposed to be one of the "safest" as I understand it). One was fine, the other ate SPS and gorgonians.

If you really like angels, then it's worth a shot. Just have a trap ready to go in case you need to remove it. Or, if it only nips a couple corals, and you like the angel better than those corals, you can just remove those corals. I think something as pretty as a flame might be worth a shot, at least in your tank

 

[sunfish11]

I have had my Coral Beauty in my reef for 19 months and no problems. I have softies, sps, lps, and a nice crocea clam. No picking. Keep your tank well fed and the angels will not feel as much of a need to eat your display.

Lisa

 

[uscharalph]

I have a Coral Beauty and a Flame Angel in my reef and no problems.

 

[Peter Eichler]

No matter how many people come in here and tell you they have angels that don't bother corals it's still a pretty big risk. Big enough that I don't think I'll ever chance it again, I've learned my lesson(s). I've seen just about every single popular Centropyge angel become a problem in my or someone elses tank.

 

[zach0660]

Thanks for all the info!

 

[HBtank]

I learned my lesson with a flame, and took my other dwarf back at the same time. No reason to chance it.

 

[starmanres]

I have a Coral Beauty that hasn't touched a single coral, clam or softie in the two years I've had it but put any gobie in the tank and it kills it within hours.

Each animal has its own issues and like posted above - it's a crap shoot.

Robert

 

[KuanTi]

it just boils down to which you like more. i happen to like fish more and just stock the tank with corals it won't eat. i've kept emperors and asfurs in reefs, its just luck i suppose. sometimes they don't know to eat the coral if you give them stuff to munch on all the time. You can always minimize your risk by selecting the "reef safe" ones. Although i will say, the Genicanthus have never picked on anything and i think are the most reef safe.

 

[Peter Eichler]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9952220#post9952220 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KuanTi
it just boils down to which you like more. i happen to like fish more and just stock the tank with corals it won't eat. i've kept emperors and asfurs in reefs, its just luck i suppose. sometimes they don't know to eat the coral if you give them stuff to munch on all the time. You can always minimize your risk by selecting the "reef safe" ones. Although i will say, the Genicanthus have never picked on anything and i think are the most reef safe.

Yep, Genicanthus sp. in all my experiences are reef safe. However, they present other problems and none are really suitable for a 65 gal.

 

[KuanTi]

oh well, yea that too. but just in general they're the ideal candidate, just difficult to find some other the more uncommon ones.

 

[Peter Eichler]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=9952337#post9952337 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by KuanTi
oh well, yea that too. but just in general they're the ideal candidate, just difficult to find some other the more uncommon ones.

Then of the ones you can find, finding one that's healthy can be even trickier. I also feel bad putting most of them in a brightly lit aquarium that's also warmed than they're accustomed to. However, once acclimated well they can be quite hardy.

 

[NanoGurl]

I had a Flame Angel that was fine. And a Lemon Peel that destroyed anything and everything.

 

[buzzer]

I have had a lemonpeel for 3 years in my reef with no problems although it is mainly a soft coral tank other than a brain and a trumpet coral.
He has been superb the whole time.
Lemonpeels are supposed to have the worst percentage for reef wreckers with flames I have heard having one of the best percentages.
I say give it a go as dwarf angels are excellent reef dwellers for your tank constantly weaving in and out of your live rock.

 

[Tang Salad]

I had a Flame and a Coral Beauty for about 18 months. The CB started niping at SPS, so I netted him...actually, I took about 3 weeks to catch him.

The Flame has been a perfect angel. I think someday he will become the Pope.

 

[KuanTi]

it just depends on the individual fish too. i've had regal angels that were reef safe. But your best bet with tanks 4' or longer are fish from the genicanthus genus. you can even pair them up which is cool. good luck finding the male counterparts.