Dwarf Seahorses
- Thread starter Charliet@ng
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Their site says they are closed for July and August.
Why do you want to buy from this place.
You are much better off dealing with a place like seahorsesource.com where you get true captive bred seahorses, dwarfs or standard species.
The information on the site for which you provided the link, has information that many seahorse hobbyists would not agree with.
With seahorsesource, you will NEVER get bad information.
It is the most recommended site for seahorses and supplies on seahorse.org.
Why do you want to buy from this place.
You are much better off dealing with a place like seahorsesource.com where you get true captive bred seahorses, dwarfs or standard species.
The information on the site for which you provided the link, has information that many seahorse hobbyists would not agree with.
With seahorsesource, you will NEVER get bad information.
It is the most recommended site for seahorses and supplies on seahorse.org.
Charliet@ng
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I knew there was misinformation here, but the majority of places that sell anything related to aquaria includes misinformation. It doesn't mean I won't buy from them.
Sometimes it hard to vendors that have accurate descriptions of products. I'm not looking for information about care, I'm looking for a live product.
Well, you won't find misinformation on seahorsesource.com.
Dan and Abbie spend a lot of time helping out seahorse hobbyists, even those that never purchase from them.
While he posts here occasionally, his main posting occurs on seahorse.org where the majority of seahorse keepers find there way to.
Dan is a leader in the captive bred breeding and his innovations have been shared with hobbyists to help improve their results.
When it comes to seahorses, there are no absolutely foolproof ways to ensure no losses, but by buying from a place like seahorsesource, you have a big advantage because of the quality of the stock you start with.
Dan and Abbie spend a lot of time helping out seahorse hobbyists, even those that never purchase from them.
While he posts here occasionally, his main posting occurs on seahorse.org where the majority of seahorse keepers find there way to.
Dan is a leader in the captive bred breeding and his innovations have been shared with hobbyists to help improve their results.
When it comes to seahorses, there are no absolutely foolproof ways to ensure no losses, but by buying from a place like seahorsesource, you have a big advantage because of the quality of the stock you start with.
wendy32693
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I don't recommend ordering from that site, i ordered from them back in like February and never had any response, didn't answer phone, emails or anything. I eventually had to call credit card company and get them to do a chargeback. Someone else i know also ordered from them and had the same thing happen to them as well. I would just go with captive bred from a reputable site or person.
Well see if my order falls thru as just ordered a dwarf pair, but also another order from Saltwaterfish on the larger Kuda as on sale $35, captive bred. Many years ago had some success with dwarf pair, several months, longevity only near a year, larger Kuda hope fairs better.
To use a slow flowing Jellyfish Tank for the Kuda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02kQUuHOwsw&list=UU7_jdf9t0BbEOev2G82ZhBQ&index=1&feature=plcp
To use a slow flowing Jellyfish Tank for the Kuda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02kQUuHOwsw&list=UU7_jdf9t0BbEOev2G82ZhBQ&index=1&feature=plcp
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First off, dwarfs need to be kept in a small tank because they need dense live enriched food, usually enriched ongrown bbs to feed from, and the remaining food needs to be removed before next feeding.
Second, with just a pair, it will be hard to see them a lot of the time.
As for kuda or any standard seahorse, it is misinformation that they need only slow flow when in fact they can take slow, medium and high flow areas as long as there is hitching in each area and as long as the high flow can't blast them against something to injure themselves.
Mixing species is NOT recommended as it often leads to the demise of one or both species due to exposures to pathogens they haven't experienced growing up.
Mixing dwarfs with kuda especially is bad also because of their very different feeding methods as kuda, while fry size will feed of bbs, will ignore them as they get larger but the dwarfs will not/can not eat the frozen mysis that the kuda feed on.
Life span of dwarfs IS short, typically about 1 1/2 yrs with some getting to around 2 yrs old, possibly a touch more under ideal conditions.
Standard seahorses kept in ideal conditions can live 5 to 10 years but many don't make it even a year, some due to lack of knowledge, some due to lazy husbandry over time, and some due to unknown factors.
From your wanting to keep kuda in a jellyfish tank, I suspect you haven't the best source of information on the seahorse hobby yet.
There are links at the bottom of "My Thoughts on Seahorse Keeping" written by experienced keepers and a commercial breeder that can give you a better insight into the hobby.
Second, with just a pair, it will be hard to see them a lot of the time.
As for kuda or any standard seahorse, it is misinformation that they need only slow flow when in fact they can take slow, medium and high flow areas as long as there is hitching in each area and as long as the high flow can't blast them against something to injure themselves.
Mixing species is NOT recommended as it often leads to the demise of one or both species due to exposures to pathogens they haven't experienced growing up.
Mixing dwarfs with kuda especially is bad also because of their very different feeding methods as kuda, while fry size will feed of bbs, will ignore them as they get larger but the dwarfs will not/can not eat the frozen mysis that the kuda feed on.
Life span of dwarfs IS short, typically about 1 1/2 yrs with some getting to around 2 yrs old, possibly a touch more under ideal conditions.
Standard seahorses kept in ideal conditions can live 5 to 10 years but many don't make it even a year, some due to lack of knowledge, some due to lazy husbandry over time, and some due to unknown factors.
From your wanting to keep kuda in a jellyfish tank, I suspect you haven't the best source of information on the seahorse hobby yet.
There are links at the bottom of "My Thoughts on Seahorse Keeping" written by experienced keepers and a commercial breeder that can give you a better insight into the hobby.
Tnx for all the information, no I'm not planning to keep dwarfs with the Kuda, as have a smaller 3 gallon for a dwarf pair. Is only a tiny hermit, but a cleaner shrimp, may have to remove the shrimp. The Kuda is a single seahorse, arrival size average 3.5 inches. The 8 gallons is below minimum suggested size, circulation tho low will watch, barely moved the former floating Jellies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3cHP7actM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys3cHP7actM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
Why would you persist in still wanting to put the kuda in not just an undersized container, but at least only half the size it should have, once you know?
That seahorse will not be long getting to 7" to 8" and by keeping it in such a low volume container, the odds of water deterioration causing bacterial problems leading to death are extremely high.
As for shrimp, the only one I would put in with standard sized seahorses would be a peppermint shrimp, and I would have none in with dwarfs.
That seahorse will not be long getting to 7" to 8" and by keeping it in such a low volume container, the odds of water deterioration causing bacterial problems leading to death are extremely high.
As for shrimp, the only one I would put in with standard sized seahorses would be a peppermint shrimp, and I would have none in with dwarfs.
mtc1966
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would love to know were you got this info from as its totally false:deadhorse:
Now I'm confused on your post.
From the quote, I think he is just advising that the size of the seahorse when shipped should be about 3.5", and, is acknowledging that the 8g is too small.
As for flow, I read that he will keep an eye on it, I just don't know what for.
Am I taking it wrong or perhaps you misunderstood it?
mtc1966
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oops sorry i was reading that backwards thought he was saying bigger then recommended minimum . brain hic up on my part
I think you may have been caught up in errant information.
Years ago, and maybe some hobbyists still, used kreisels to raise pelagic fry from seahorses like H. reidi and H. kuda.
It was the attempt to keep the seahorses from sucking air at the surface of the tank which can be a big problem with the pelagic fry. Once the fry are large enough 1" or 2", they get moved to larger containers with much more water per seahorse.
Nowadays, many have found a few other ways to succeed, with mine being HERE.
With all due respect to your previous dwarf experience, the dwarf keeping is NOT AT ALL similar to keeping dwarfs.
The GOOD thing is that you are posting on a seahorse forum which many don't do and they generally will have a lower success ratio than those posting in proper forums.
Another thing about "U"-tube is that like forum post trolls, a lot of people set up something and post videos merely to elicit reactions they KNOW they will get from doing something abhorrent or impractical.
Then too are those videos that are set up by the unknowing and you never hear about the demise of the contents down the road due to conditions needed not being met.
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