Epinephelus flavocaeruleus?

Itchy Trigger

Itchy Trigger

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Anyone here keep this fish? "Blue and yellow grouper." I know some Epinephelus sp get truly enormous, grow extremely fast, eat everything they can fit in their mouths and will try to eat things that WON'T fit.

Would this fish be a bad choice for a FOWLR with large angels, tangs, hi-fin snapper, etc? I believe groupers are pretty sedentary so may not need a super huge tank, but I'm guessing 330g may not be enough?

Thoughts?
 
Just did a quick google search and found this lol. They have some cool coloration on them. Have not heard of this kind of grouper before now, but hopefully someone can help you out. Depending how big they get, just be prepared of the possibility of it eating some of your other fish
 

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Haha! Yes, I saw that pic too! :bigeyes: From what I can tell, they don't get nearly as big as I first thought they did. Just gotta see if I can get some info on the level of aggression. I don't mind if it eats my damsels and other little guys. Seems like large angels and tangs should be ok... Not sure though yet...
 
xkon said:
https://www.bluezooaquatics.com/productDetail.asp?did=1&pid=511&cid=281

Also found this. Now it says mature size is 35 inches and a minimum tank size of 150 gallons lol. I have noticed on bluezooaquatics that their sizes and tank sizes are sometimes off. But maybe it will help
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Yep, Blue Zoo is INSANE for posting figures like that. I think 18-20" is much more likely in terms of size. Checked fishbase for that info. Max size is 90 cm but average size is 45 cm. I guess if it outgrows the tank, I could always sauté it for dinner. Grouper is delicious.
 
18-20 seems more realistic, especially in an aquarium setting as compared to the wild. I would start asking around at some LFS if you have any decent ones nearby, as I have never heard of this grouper before now. They might be able to give a little insight and be able to order it for you
 
Itchy Trigger said:
Anyone here keep this fish? "Blue and yellow grouper." I know some Epinephelus sp get truly enormous, grow extremely fast, eat everything they can fit in their mouths and will try to eat things that WON'T fit.
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Right on the money..
Id say minimun 500g and tangs will be eaten in the end.
I have keept this fish and its a huge character but everything that touches the water surface will be eaten or tryed..il try and phind my old thread of this fish.
 
ulli said:
Right on the money..
Id say minimun 500g and tangs will be eaten in the end.
I have keept this fish and its a huge character but everything that touches the water surface will be eaten or tryed..il try and phind my old thread of this fish.
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Ahhh, OK. I had a feeling this might be the case. How big did the one you kept get and in what size tank?
 
I think your best bet will be a Miniatus , Blue Spot and Blue Line Groupers. I have had a few Miniatus Groupers and always had plenty of personality

IME once Groupers reach about 7" they start going after the other fish in the tank
 
I had a miniatus and he was an unholy terror in my 180 gallon tank once he hit 6 inches. I replaced him with a 7 inch coney (who looks almost identical 99% of the time) and have no issues. I also have an 8 inch white spotted grouper (E. ongus) and that grouper is super calm and also causes no trouble. Both of them leave everyone alone (even the 4 inch lunare wrasse I'm sure they could successfully swallow if they tried). The coney makes a bum rush at the anchorago tuskfish once in a blue moon, but never actually causes any harm, and the tuskfish goes about his business like nothing ever happened. I also have a bird wrasse, a grey poma, a koran angel, a 2 line rabbitfish, a vlamingii, a lavender, a yellow, a scopas, and two sailfin tangs in the tank and nobody could care about them.

Go with a coney or a whitespotted grouper and you won't regret it.
 
The coney grouper does look cool. So does the Variola louti. Every miniatus I've ever seen was hiding behind rocks. All the time. I know that's their typical behavior - to lurk and wait for prey to come bumbling by, but sheesh. Boring. I suppose any grouper you get could display this behavior the majority of the time though. Too bad, as they are super cool looking fish.
 
Itchy Trigger said:
The coney grouper does look cool. So does the Variola louti. Every miniatus I've ever seen was hiding behind rocks. All the time. I know that's their typical behavior - to lurk and wait for prey to come bumbling by, but sheesh. Boring. I suppose any grouper you get could display this behavior the majority of the time though. Too bad, as they are super cool looking fish.
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My miniatus always hid unless he was attacking a tankmate, but the coney and the white spotted always hang out and beg for food with the other fish.
 
Have you considered any of the Maori wrasses as an alternative to a grouper? IMO, they have a similar look/shape without the aggression, territoriality, and tendency to spend most of the day in hiding.

Here's a pic of my 10" Cheilinus trilobatus (Tripletail Maori Wrasse).

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