EuroReef Club

[Fliger]

FWIW, I really do hope ER can come out with some great skimmers that will be much less than the German models. But based on the prices with lesser pumps, I wonder how much the Eheim models will be. Hopefully much less. I got some money burnin a hole in my pocket and I need to buy me a new skimmer just for the heck of it. ;-)

 

[Reefologist]

What would be really cool is a trade in program. Kind of like buying a car. I will trade my two Dolphin pumps in on the Ehiems(to recieve a discount). The "smelly green" book value should be very high since I am anal retentive about maintaining them. On the seriuos side...I do want the Ehiems when they are available...ER(hint,hint) P.C. or not P.C I still love ya ER. Now you kids be good and if daddy has to come in here again I"m telling mommy.....LOL happy reefing.

 

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7821019#post7821019 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Fliger
FWIW, I really do hope ER can come out with some great skimmers that will be much less than the German models. But based on the prices with lesser pumps, I wonder how much the Eheim models will be. Hopefully much less. I got some money burnin a hole in my pocket and I need to buy me a new skimmer just for the heck of it. ;-)

You always gotta get a new skimmer just for the heck of it! This is nothing new


LOL

Jim

 

[James11]

Does anyone know anything abot the ER CS-5, I'm thinking about buying a used one. What is a good price on them used? Thanks.

 

[Beenalongtime79]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7820358#post7820358 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by bjdrake
Yeah I’m not a big fan of ball valves for anything other that shutting things completely off and on. It seems that no one makes a true union gate valve. I would rather have a couple of extra fittings and a gate valve myself.

You will be much happier with the gate valve. You should be fine to put at least 500-600 gph through that gave valve if fully opened.

Peace,
John H.

 

[Adobo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7818961#post7818961 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by PrangeWay
Shhhhhhh some people seem to be very, very sensitive about their brittle pinwheels.... Though the previous page get's added to my "humorous thread" favorites folder just because a casual and humorous comment got one guy to go off like ER slept with his wife, and another sponsor to send pm's demanding less humor! Priceless. You can't buy that sortof entertainment.

The Deltec guys seem a bit less rigid and a bit more fun. Must be the cheeky british part.


PW

I'd rather have the so called brittle pinwheel than rusted a55 pump sitting in sump.

And I think you are missing the true humor in this exercise. It's not like they are reverse engineering a microchip here.

Gotta give it to Coralife. They looked at the notion of a needle wheel skimmer and gave it their own spin. You know, not another, "me too" skimmer.

 

[euroreef]

Adobo,

Just to clarify:

1. If you have an ER skimmer using a Gen-ex pump that has any "rust" on it, please contact us immediately as we have been swapping those pumps out for free for some time now (over a year).

2. The Coralife impeller is a needle wheel style which has been used by aquamedic for many years now. The basic incarnation of the skimmer they sell now was originally being mfr'd in China by a MAJOR player in the Chinese market and sold through Pacific Coast Imports. I wonder what happened there...

Hope that helps.

-ER

 

[euroreef]

Adobo,

Just to clarify:

1. If you have an ER skimmer using a Gen-ex pump that has any "rust" on it, please contact us immediately as we have been swapping those pumps out for free for some time now (over a year).

2. The Coralife impeller is a needle wheel style which has been used by aquamedic for many years now. The basic incarnation of the skimmer they sell now was originally being mfr'd in China by a MAJOR player in the Chinese market and sold through Pacific Coast Imports. I wonder what happened there...

Hope that helps.

-ER

 

[Adobo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7828016#post7828016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by euroreef
Adobo,

Just to clarify:

1. If you have an ER skimmer using a Gen-ex pump that has any "rust" on it, please contact us immediately as we have been swapping those pumps out for free for some time now (over a year).

Thanks.. I bought a different brand of skimmer so no rusty pumps in my sump.

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7828016#post7828016 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by euroreef


2. The Coralife impeller is a needle wheel style which has been used by aquamedic for many years now. The basic incarnation of the skimmer they sell now was originally being mfr'd in China by a MAJOR player in the Chinese market and sold through Pacific Coast Imports. I wonder what happened there...

Hope that helps.

-ER

My admiration for Coralife is that they came up with a novel concept in needle wheel skimmers. They have an offering at $100 or so. It's not the greatest thing in the world but it is what it is. The least expensive of the imitations. Their market positioning is very clear and very unique. If you have a super tight budget and are looking for the cheapest in the game, that's where you go.

All of the other copycats are a little fuzzy to me. ASM, Geo, ER, Octopus, etc. It's hard to differentiate one from another. None of them were the first, none of them are the best, none offer "best in class" service (or even a specialized forum in reef central for that matter) and certainly none of them are the cheapest.

So yeah, the Coralife skimmers, as humble as they are, Chinese made and all, are at least unique.

 

[Beenalongtime79]

ER is under attack.... although, Adobo... coralife isn't delivering a new spin on things (no pun intended), they are really just combining two known modalities in the hope of creating something new and fresh and I gotta be honest... I think they dropped just below expectations.

Of course 100 bucks is pretty cheap.

Peace,
John H.

 

[poopsko24]

Jeff, I spoke to you regarding the replacement pumps for my CS-12-2. You said to get the warranty shipped out to you and you would take care of getting me the correct pumps that were suppose to run on that skimmer. Its been months, and emails, and messages left on youre answering machine and I've had NO respone at all from you or anyone there at all. Where are my pumps you promised me ? I still have the email from you when we discussed this. This is why I went with a deltec, when it comes to ER they have not came through on they're promise to get done what needs to get done.........I'm still waiting Jeff.

 

[Adobo]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7830226#post7830226 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by rufio173
ER is under attack.... although, Adobo... coralife isn't delivering a new spin on things (no pun intended), they are really just combining two known modalities in the hope of creating something new and fresh and I gotta be honest... I think they dropped just below expectations.

Of course 100 bucks is pretty cheap.

Peace,
John H.

John,

In the first place, I am still waiting for a pic of "our" skimmer.

In the second place, I hope you do not view my cynicism (spelling?) as an attack. There are plenty of cynics in the Coralife thread and plenty in the Octopus thread. Personally, I think it is healthy to have a few hobbyists with some open and honest feedback for as long as the manufacturer can derive something actionable from the exercise. Like in this case, I would say the following things:
- the beta program should have a little better attention to detail. Putting metal laden pumps on those skimmers was, in my uninformed opinion, not ideal.
- differentiating yourself from the others in the pack (Geo, Octopus, Coralife, ASM etc.), you might need to do more than sourcing an Eheim pump. After all, if Octopus sources an Eheim pump, are we back at parity again?
- Premium money requires premium treatment. The kind of money the other guys are asking, I am not all that surprised that there are no direct phone numbers for support. I am not surprised that there are no forums to go to. ER, OTOH, is the priciest in this bunch. I'd like to see some value add for that extra money.

If not for so many other needle wheel skimmers in the market (Geo, Octopus, Coralife, etc.), ER would be quite interesting. In fact, I remember when Euro reef came out. It was the only game in town since the real deal from Germany wasn't widely available. It was either ETSS or ER.

I am mistaken about Coralife though. I think Octopus is the new "cheapest" needle wheel skimmer in the game.

Adobo

P.S. Let's really be honest and say that dropping below expectations is not unique in the copycat game. Anybody buying a knockoff of a Gucci purse will never be satisfied if their expectations were to get the real deal.

 

[jsteidl]

I made the conversion on my RC250 to the 1.5in Gate valve with no issues. Very easy to adjust now.

 

[Beenalongtime79]

Adobo,

Pics are circulating around somewhere. I actually went NW eventually with only one recirc. OR 3700 and honestly couldn't be happier with the performance on it since 70 gallons is all I'm skimming. The airflow meters are great, they really are indispensable IMO.

I remember when it was just becketts vs. a Euroreef NW skimmer. Now, it really just seems to be NW vs. NW these days.


Peace,
John H.

 

[Jim_S]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7831559#post7831559 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jsteidl
I made the conversion on my RC250 to the 1.5in Gate valve with no issues. Very easy to adjust now.

Yeah. IME/IMO the gatevalve really helps. Just a little turn here or there and and you can get the skimmers to run right where you like it.

Jim

 

[euroreef]

poopsko24,

Please call me at 949-770-9913 ext 17 at your earliest convenience. If I am not at my desk please leave a message including a phone# and a good time to call.

-ER

 

[euroreef]

poopsko24,

Thanks for calling. That UPS shipping lable should arrive via e-mail shortly. Please send the pumps in asap so we can test them and get you dialed in.

-ER

 

[outy]

i have a rs6 1 basically a 20" tall 6" diameter with the sedra 3500

i have done the recirc mod as well as the gate valve.

im going to cut the body in half and make the skimmer a little taller, i see they used to make them 4" taller with the same pump.

how much higher can i make the body before the pump wont suck enough air to make it work rite??? id like to get beyond the 4" mark. i may add a gen x soon

 

[rishma]

Wow - my little post nearly resulted in a brawl. Forgive me for taking pride in that. Now back to my question regarding the brittle needle wheel.

Euroreef-
Probably ~2 years ago I was back in South OC and took the opportunity to bring my 3 ancient euroreef sedra 7000 (back from the H2O Topricals Days!!) to the shop to get new impellers. These early sedras had a poor magnet coating that split and degraded. Robert and Jeff nicely replaced the impellers. The needle wheels that I was given were different than the originals. The pins were more narrow at the tip and longer. Jeff explained that this was the new impeller that had not yet been released. I notice 1 year later that the euroreefs still came with the stubby rugged impeller.

These impellers did seem to pull more air and the pumps drew less current, but the pegs are bittle and I have broken several.

Am I to assume these impellers were not released because of this problem??

 

[poopsko24]

Jeff pumps are on the way, thanx for taking care of this.