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[Nu2SW]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8532874#post8532874 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Marc Daniels
Why would a car need a full house system?

I was saying in being totally self independent for power, not needing the power from the local companies, and also being able to sell some back to the power company.

Also, Being totally green, A solar powered house and a electric vehicle that gets charged by plugging it into a 120 volt plug. So you are not emitting any smog or crud into the air from your car or the power of your home.

 

[Nu2SW]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8533357#post8533357 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by goslugsgo
Yeah, I was talking about the cars.
As for the house electrical systems, the panels are heavily backordered. How do you want them to reduce costs? One major component in them is silver. That's not going to get any cheaper, especially with inflation and the investing community's shift toward the global commodities makets.
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LOL either you edited it or I totally read that one way wrong...... LOL

What component is made out of silver in the car? I never heard that.

 

[GreshamH]

silver aside, carbon fiber is extremelly hard to get on a manufacturer level. My friend runs a production shop and has had to compete with the likes of Lockhead and such. The aerospace industry is taking all the available CF top make our new fighter jets, amongst many other uses. He had to pay huge amounts of money to secure the companies CF stock.

 

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8532136#post8532136 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nu2SW
To install a self running full house system is like anywhere from 20,000 - 40,000.

that is what is shying so many people away, so that there for makes a low demand.

Maybe I shouldnt of said no demand, I know there is a demand, if they were not so costly.

Thats what I ment.

It would be easier and more economical to get rid of your TV, cell phone, computer, and fish tanks. You can easily drop your energy consupmtion to next to nothing.

Energy efficent vehicles will just equate to people driving more and commuting farther. The issue lies with the fact that most of the population doesn't conservere or try to be efficient.

 

[Nu2SW]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8536160#post8536160 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by tacocat
It would be easier and more economical to get rid of your TV, cell phone, computer, and fish tanks. You can easily drop your energy consupmtion to next to nothing.

Energy efficent vehicles will just equate to people driving more and commuting farther. The issue lies with the fact that most of the population doesn't conservere or try to be efficient.

Well, Whats wrong with them driving more? Untill they create a infrastructure that will allow everyone to plug in everywhere. Miles will be limited to within a few hundred miles. Untill the technology gets better and can produce more miles out of the batteries.

Or in the case of hydrogen, they have to convert gas stations to hydrogen fueling stations. Which will take lots of time and money.

If everyone ran off of solar power why would there be a need to conserve when you are producing almost free energy for you whole home.

Use all you want, Id say. Sun isnt going anywhere soon. HEH I hope (KNOCK ON WOOD)

 

[tacocat]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8536218#post8536218 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Nu2SW
Well, Whats wrong with them driving more? Untill they create a infrastructure that will allow everyone to plug in everywhere. Miles will be limited to within a few hundred miles. Untill the technology gets better and can produce more miles out of the batteries.

Or in the case of hydrogen, they have to convert gas stations to hydrogen fueling stations. Which will take lots of time and money.

If everyone ran off of solar power why would there be a need to conserve when you are producing almost free energy for you whole home.

Use all you want, Id say. Sun isnt going anywhere soon. HEH I hope (KNOCK ON WOOD)

Increased tire use (oil based product). Increased road building (oil based product and environmental concern). Increased battery construction and disposal, etc. Urban sprawl is concern as well. Cheap resources typically result in over usage. Look at the early 80's. Manufacturers made many fuel efficeint vehicles like the Honda CRX, Ford Festiva, Chevy Spectrum, etc. When fuel prices dropped during the late 80's, consumers started to demand V-8s, super sportscars and SUVs. Now nobody wants them again.

BTW, the next time you see the first Die Hard movie, pay attention to the scene where the police officer buys Twinkies at the gas station. He steps outside and passes a sign that states $0.89 (might be less) for a gallon of unleaded.

Have you realistically looked into solar (not being mean)? I have. First of all, you'll never be totally off the grid. Solar doesn't work at night or work well during overcast days. Solar also doesn't work in all parts of the country. Solar panels also degrade over time. Some users we have spoken to personally have mentioned a 40% decrease in output in two or three years. Plus your house has to have a flat detail free roof facing the south or west for maximum efficiency. My house is not setup well for solar panels. Solar is great, but it's not a solution for everybody, and you will still need the power grid at night.

Consider also that many of the things we use and need are created by the petroleum industry as by-products.

 

[Nu2SW]

Well at night , There would be battery back up for the night usage. Which most of the time things will be off and people sleeping. I havent looked into solar, Ive read up and found info on it. But I understand where you are coming from on both the cars and the panels. I know some house's are not in the position to get panels based on design. But, even if it was a larger level where the power companies made fields full of panels ( probably not probable, would need thousands upon thousands of panels for the public to get its power from.)

This is just me thinking of what would better serve the world and the people in it.

Great things start off from a single Idea. We need people to become more involved

you keep saying we, when you refer are you in home construction or something of the sort?

Also, you weren't being mean. You brought up some valid points that I overlooked, But I think with more rubber being used and batteries being made, the pollution would be so much less then all the cars on the road now.

THanks for the info.