Fact or Fiction ???

[JMCAquarium]

I was always told growing up not to play the radio (mostly Bass) to loud when coming home from the pet store with fish as it could cause major stress or even death do to the vibrations.
What are your thoughts on this and do you think it would go the same for corals ??

 

[aztbs]

Well, the fish and corals put up with a LOT of noise and vibration from all of the pumps and equipment in your tank, foot traffic, TV's, Stereos in your house, etc. I don't think it is deadly to them.

But I do think it would be unnecessary stress when it can so easily be avoided. The trip is already bad enough.

 

[Kentanner11]

I think it is just like tapping on the tank. I remember reading somewhere that when you do that it messes with the fish's natural balance/location skills and that long term it could cause damage to that part of the fish and early death. Ill have to find that.

 

[Elliott]

well, being very noise sensitive myself, knowing how well sound travels through water, how animals react to stresses, it's no stretch for me to believe it is detrimental to underwater livestock

 

[azrednex]

How would crashing waves and other natural sounds play into this?

 

[Kentanner11]

I think that crashing waves wouldn't have a sound underwater.. I think it would just be the movement of the wave. To also think about it what about like boat motors or large cruise ships?

 

[Elliott]

waves are silent underwater, I have dove very near breakwater in the ocean, boat props certainly cause noise but are intermittent and not very loud, if fact they are hard to hear unless you are relatively close to the surface, within one atmosphere (33 ft)

 

[dvlax40]

how about the plane trip they take to get to us from the oceannn??? yeah thats what i thought, change it to no. no. or no haha

 

[Pescado Racing]

Fish have lateral lines that do pick up vibrations in the water. It is a sensory device for them. So I do believe you could potentially confuse the fish. Also, sound does carry very well through water. Just some facts...

 

[jasonh]

I personally usually turn down the music while coming back with fish and stuff. I don't have any scientific proof to back it up, but I voted yes cause that's just what I think.

 

[hermanx7]

I turn down the music also. I do want to know more about tapping on the glass though. I do that(with my turkey baster) to signal the fish for feeding time. When I do it they all come out and start to swarm in a feeding frenzy. Maybe I better stop.

 

[dvlax40]

sound does not vibrate as much in water as it does through air..... hence why it travels through it better. so in conclusion.... sound= no hurty of the fishy....

 

[dvlax40]

and for any nay sayers..........In a laboratory, goldfish were exposed to continuous sounds at 170 underwater dB and their stress response was measured using corticosteroid levels . No significant increases in corticosteroid concentrations were found in fishes exposed to the high levels of sound. This study is likely the first attempt at investigating the effects of anthropogenic(man made) sound on the physiological stress response of a fish species using corticosteroid level--a common indicator of stress.

 

[frontosa_man80]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12111744#post12111744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dvlax40
sound does not vibrate as much in water as it does through air..... hence why it travels through it better. so in conclusion.... sound= no hurty of the fishy....

The sounds you hear are vibrations of the particles that make up the air
around us. When you speak you push the air particles against one another,
they push on the particles next to them and a wave of sound travels
outwards.

You can do exactly the same thing in water, so yes, sound does travel in
water. Try singing underwater with a friend in a swimming pool - you will
hear distorted sounds.

In water the particles are closer together than air, this means it is
easier for them to push on one another and the vibration that is the sound
wave travels faster than in air.

Sound travels even faster in solids like wood or earth as their particles
are very close together. You may have seen pictures of American Indians
with their ears to the ground listening for far, far away sounds.

Posted By: Jocelyn Wishart, Lecturer, Education, Loughborough University
Area of science: Physics

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sound waves in water can kill fish if the db's are too high. some sounds dolphins make to stun their prey are in the range of 200 db.

-jesse

 

[Pescado Racing]

sound does not vibrate as much in water as it does through air..... hence why it travels through it better.

This is not true, sound is carried through water very well. We use a rubberball on a bungee to make a vibration off our dive tanks when pulled back and let go. I've been able to hear that from over 40 feet away from my buddy as a signal, both underwater @ 20ft depth.
As well as air being purged from a BC, I can hear that also.

After all these years your telling me, whales don't use sonar? I say nay...

 

[dvlax40]

im saying that sound travels better in water.. HOWEVER it is not directly compreable to how sound travels in air.... with the particles close together yes they vibrate , but they do not produce an acoustic wave in the sense that particles in air do. thats what causes pressure from sound in the air. again, you guys are looking at this all wrong, either way science has proven you wrong

 

[DjScibbity]

Well...thats funny. I acclimate my fish on the way home from the stores by Bumping my truck stereo. Usually, its cause Im excited of my new purchase and I tend to blast the radio when Im excited My sub was thumping both times I bought fish for my tank. Both fish were fine... I also blast my home theater and music at home at times with no effect. My fish are hard core...you gotta be if you want to survive in Jays nano

-JP

 

[dvlax40]

sigg material!

 

[frontosa_man80]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=12112320#post12112320 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by dvlax40
im saying that sound travels better in water.. HOWEVER it is not directly compreable to how sound travels in air.... with the particles close together yes they vibrate , but they do not produce an acoustic wave in the sense that particles in air do. thats what causes pressure from sound in the air. again, you guys are looking at this all wrong, either way science has proven you wrong

then if were all wrong, please post up the link to the article so we can read it. im always up for learning something new.

-jesse

 

[scottallens]

Here is what I have found, it is interesting.
http://www.dosits.org/animals/effects/e1b.htm