Fairy wrasse Photo Library

[AgentSPS]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7784331#post7784331 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Vili_Shark
Hello Agent,
Awsome fish, the guy in Vanuatu dont have too many of those.
Are you keeping him with a sand bed?
Pls post some pics
Cheers,

Hi Vili-

Right now he is chilling in the fuge which has a sandbed. The main tank has no sand but I do have a container with sand that the Red Head Wrasse sleeps in. Don't think there is room for two lol. I plan on placing a sandbed in the tank this weekend for other reasons than just the wrasse.

 

[zemuron114]

snorvich - i keep my holding system in Hawaii at 1.014-1.016. And i have had 100s of fairies come and go.
I keep it this low to stop any parasites that may come up. When you move a ton of fish every week or so there is bound to be a bad egg in the mix.

post pics of the katherine's. i have never seen them before either

I thought the blue striped tamarin was an australian endemic???

 

[heuerfan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7782636#post7782636 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by heuerfan
Hey guys my male flame is eating mysis and swimming around during feeding and then hides ofcourse. I noticed that he had what looks like a wound or maybe an infection? What do you guys think, what should i do?

Thanks,
Steven

Help guys, doesn't seem to be getting better. When i look at the wrasse from the side i can see the scales are a bit raised. But there are no red blotches just the raised scales in that one area. Is this a sign of bacterial infection or am i over reacting?

Thanks,
Steven

 

[zemuron114]

might be a bad pin job. Most flames are pinned because most are caught at 100+ feet and it would take 4+ hours to decompress them.
If they are pinned wrong they will not do well. Looks to be the place where they are pinned. I would treat with furazone green or any other external medication.
If hes eating then i wouldn't worry to much now, but if he stops get him in QT right away, you may even want to consider doing it now.

I agree that the bluestripe tamarins are a hard to keep fish as well as the psych head (very hard to keep..) But if put into an established LARGE tank, both fish will do quite well for a long time. I think they would do well in a 180+ with lots of live rock/fuge.

 

[heuerfan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7789438#post7789438 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114
might be a bad pin job. Most flames are pinned because most are caught at 100+ feet and it would take 4+ hours to decompress them.
If they are pinned wrong they will not do well. Looks to be the place where they are pinned. I would treat with furazone green or any other external medication.
If hes eating then i wouldn't worry to much now, but if he stops get him in QT right away, you may even want to consider doing it now.

Thanks DJ, he is eating very well right now so i'll keep an eye on him. Just going to keep soaking the mysis with zoe, vitachem. Hopefully he will heal on its own.

 

[zemuron114]

i think it will. Most fairies take to pinning pretty well. 95% of the rhomboids in the trade are pinned (waaaayy to deep to decompress)

if he stops eating, QT right away.

 

[just dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7790607#post7790607 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by zemuron114
i think it will. Most fairies take to pinning pretty well. 95% of the rhomboids in the trade are pinned (waaaayy to deep to decompress)

if he stops eating, QT right away.

I don't think that is the case with the Rhomboids. I'm friends with the owners of the largest collector out of the Marshalls and I recall him telling me that they were decompressed and not pinned. However the collectors did not wait with the fish. IIRC they hooked them to a line (don't recall what he said the fish were in when this was done) and retrieved them the next day. I'll ask him again and get all the details next week when he gets back to Hawaii (he's in the Marshalls now.) I remember the conversation well ,though not the particulars, because I asked him if they were always there when they came back the next day to retrieve them.

 

[LargeAngels]

I lost a rhomboid to a "pin" mark just like that. I have no idea who the collector was, but it came through Quality.

 

[zemuron114]

pinning is 100% safe if the collector know what they are doing and then medicates them after to heal any open wounds. More fish are lost to long decompression times then to pinning. 5-20 fish in 1 decompression bucket for over 12 hours = lots of stress and losses. Most divers will decompress them for a long time and then when they bring them to the top if they are a little bent they bleed the air bladder, so it isn't to bad. However some will pin 3-5 times depending on the fish which is certain death for any fish.

Just dave, you have PM

 

[just dave]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7791700#post7791700 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by LargeAngels
I lost a rhomboid to a "pin" mark just like that. I have no idea who the collector was, but it came through Quality.

Who knows what happened. It'll always be a best guess. I've never lost a Rhomboids to anything but jumping and they are jumpy. It's one of the last fish you want to see as fish jerky on the floor because someone couldn't be bothered to close a lid.

 

[heuerfan]

UPDATE: guess i was over reacting, male flame looks alot better today. The area seems to be healing. Plus he just started to eat Formula One Pellets that i soaked in Vitachem. Thanks to everyone for the postive reassurance

Look what i found at my local fish store for $25.00, it was completely bleached all white/yellow with a very subtle hint of blue on his face. I had a feeling it was a Pylei because of his long pectorial fins and dorsal. Plus he was eating mysis at the store, bought him in a heart beat

Here he is, let me know what you think, gotta find him a girlfriend

 

[LargeAngels]

What!!!! A pylie for $25 at an LFS!!! Nice find.

Just dave: Yeah, who knows. It may not have been the *****, but it came that way and it ate like crazy at first and that was the only thing that I could find/see. Believe me. I have covered every single little hole in all my tanks with wrasses. Even the overflow box has a lid and a strainer. I've found my johnsoni in the overflow box twice now and the lid and strainer have saved it everytime.

 

[H.Tanaka]

About "supermale"

About "supermale"

I just received an email from Dr. John E. Randall in Oahu, a true expert on fairy wrasses in ichthyology. He has described so many Cirrhilabrus and Paracheilinus as well.

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Hiroyuki:

Nice photo of a terminal male of Cirrhilabrus jordani.

Aquarists may use the term supermale for this stage, but I think most, if not all, ichthyologists who work on wrasses and parrotfishes do not use this word in scientific writing.

Some wrasses spawn in aggregations of males and females that all look the same. The males then are initial-phase fish. Females may change sex to males, grow larger, and become a different color â€"œ often more colorful â€"œ terminal-male fish. Some initial-phase males may also change to terminal males. Other species of wrasses are only male or female with no sex change.

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..... I have no idea if we could use the word but as a person pointed out some time ago, that individual would be the 'ultimate' stage of C. jordani. I have never seen such an individual with a blue submarginal line on caudal fin, and I would change my concept for these sex-changed specimens and may use "terminal male" in stead of "supermale". Thank you for your pointing out.

 

[H.Tanaka]

heuerfan,

Your specimen is a male form from Sulawesi, a recently frequently available variant, and it has a distinct coloration from those from other areas as shown below. $25 is unbeliebable; it costs at least $70 in Japan.

 

[heuerfan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7794368#post7794368 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by H.Tanaka
heuerfan,

Your specimen is a male form from Sulawesi, a recently frequently available variant, and it has a distinct coloration from those from other areas as shown below. $25 is unbeliebable; it costs at least $70 in Japan.

Thank you Tanaka for the information, i could not believe it myself at first i thought it was a Rhomboid I hope to have lots of nice pictures of him for you Do you think he will lose color without a female?

Thanks,
Steven

 

[snorvich]

Pyle's are in the group that loses some color without a female but it is not as bad as Scott's, Solar, Blue Scaled, etc. But they are always more interesting when kept with one or more females. In any case, a great find. Did you get that from Michael?

 

[heuerfan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7794777#post7794777 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
Pyle's are in the group that loses some color without a female but it is not as bad as Scott's, Solar, Blue Scaled, etc. But they are always more interesting when kept with one or more females. In any case, a great find. Did you get that from Michael?

Thanks thats good to hear. No, it was an actual fish store that usually stocks basic marine fish. I'm going to make sure i pay them a visit at least once a week

 

[H.Tanaka]

>Do you think he will lose color without a female?

No, I do not think so. My males did not lose any coloration for over a year without any female. It is more difficult to obtain its mate at the same time than losing hues of males.

 

[snorvich]

I have one like that around here. I have an arrangement where they call when they are getting something of interest (I gave them a list). Pyle's or Blue Margin are very pretty fish; it turns out I am looking for a female as well.

 

[heuerfan]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=7794842#post7794842 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by snorvich
I have one like that around here. I have an arrangement where they call when they are getting something of interest (I gave them a list). Pyle's or Blue Margin are very pretty fish; it turns out I am looking for a female as well.

Glad to hear it will keep its color. I'm hoping nobody in my tank will bother him, he is only 2.5 inches. Totally forgot they were also know as Blue Margin, this is my first time seeing one in person and i can't beliieve how blue the tail is Real pretty fish, hope he does well in my tank.