feeding baby clownfish

bbfatty49

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i have two black onyx clowns that i want to start breeding. i was wondering if there was anyway to skip the whole rotifer/greenwater deal. i found a frozen package of rotifers...would this work?
 
With very, very limited results with the hardiest of species, I would suspect not at all with Onyx's.
There's pretty much no match for rotifers and greenwater can be substituted with Instant Algae.
 
No offense to the OP...

But I do not see why people have such a hard time with the idea of culturing rots. If you use Instant Algae it is easy and not time consuming in the least. It takes maybe 5-10 mins a day tops. And if you plan a little the harvesting is quick and easy too.
 
does it matter if you leave the green water and rotifers going for a while if you dont need them if you dont always have baby clwn fish?

where do you get instant algae?

how do you do it for your clowns?

i emailed the frozen rotifers place and they said that their rotifers were more nutritous for the clowns and that it was made for aquaculturing clowns(biased of course) but what do you think of them? heres a link Frozen Rotifers or Larval Diet
 
Most larvae will not eat food that doesn't move. Hikari does enrich their rots before they freeze them, but they still won't move and dead food increases water quality issues. That's the same issue for larvae diets as well.

You may get SOME fish that will eat the dead food. Not many. If you just want to raise a batch or two for fun and see what happens, it might be worth a shot.

Rotifer culturing is not hard, although it takes some practice to get the hang of it, nor is it particularly time consuming. And far, far cheaper than buying frozen rotifers. You should be able to find someone to give you a starter culture for free or cheap in Houston.

You can put the rot cultures on "simmer" when not feeding any babies by keeping densities low, but focusing on learning how to get steady production is goal #1. Then you can fuss with increasing/decreasing production on demand. You do have to take care of them all the time unless you are willing to keep buying starter cultures and shipping them FedEx. Not cheap!
 
what do you do if you do not want alot of rotifers being produced when your not raising clownfish?

is it easier to buy the instant algae or raise your own algae?
 
Just make the rotifers part of your reef tanks diet as well, it will save on some of the intricacies of simmering rots for weeks (read: makes it ALOT easier) and your reef tank willl thank you.
THe link that JHardman suppplied has a bunch of info and you can try reading THIS.
 
So far there has been a common underlying thread to all of this (and you'll get this type of response in this forum alot) there's a good deal of reading involved long before you get to see a truly successful hatch reared.
 
would it be easier if i began rearing rotifers and just releasing them into my tanks to get the hang of it before the clownfish breed?
 
I found IA to be dirty and a water quality problem. However, if you need a lot of phyto it can save you a LOT of culturing room and effort. Many breeders use it very successfully. Given the alternative, I use IA, too, but I am growing a little live phyto now to use in larval tanks to tint the water green so I avoid some water quality issues.

To slow down rotifer production, lower the temp to slow metabolism and reduce feeding to keep the population down.

When I have babies to feed, I feed the rotifers a combination of instant algae and a yeast-based food. I harvest half every 24-36 hours and enrich them for 12 hours in an enrichment media, then feed the larvae the enriched rotifers. I replace the 50% water I took out with new salt mix. I harvest every 12 hours, but rotate cultures so I can feed every 12 hours. For L-strain rotifers, keep the temp nice and warm around 82F. (I don't heat mine; I don't need many rotifers and I get more than I can use at 70-72F room temp and my cultures are more stable at a lower temp. I seem to be in the minority on that.)

On "simmer," I only feed a little bit of yeast each day and harvest half from each culture every 2 days, replacing the water with new salt mix. This keeps the density relatively low but healthy, and I can ramp up to "production" levels within a couple of days. Turn off the heaters or turn them down to 70F-ish.

Yes, harvesting a healthy culture more often makes you get MORE rotifers. It's wierd but true. I use Clor-Am-X in the cultures to reduce crashing from ammonia; rotifers are dirty critters.

If there's one thing I learned, you MUST keep to your maintenance schedule. Slacking off can get you a bucket full of dead smelly sludge very quickly. And I mean SMELLY! You can get the smelly sludge even if you are careful, so keep more than one culture going at all times and rotate maintence among the cultures.
 
Couldn't have said it better myself. :D
After I've harvested and before I add new water, I siphon the bottom of detrius. My culture has been running continuous for almost two years with no problems. (I'm using a 22 gallon rubbermaid container)
 
i need a quick help on some algae prob. i think it is hair algae but im not sure. i had it all scrubbed off and gone 2 weeks ago and its coming back fast.

Ammonia:0
Nitrite:0
Nitrate:20
PH:8.0

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Looks like hair algae to me. based on your other parameters, it's probably due to phosphates, largely from your feeding regimen, but could also bound up in our live rock.
 
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