Few Gigantea Questions
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JustinReef
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Dismissive? No...I said I understood the risks and I was willing to take a chance. I never debated it or said anyone was wrong. I simply said I will see what happens.
And if you want to be in the minority of people who think Vortechs suck then be my guest but do it somewhere else. They are by far the best powerhead I have ever used. Nothing else has come close.
Not to mention telling people its only a matter of time is ridiculous.
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Dismissive? No...I said I understood the risks and I was willing to take a chance. I never debated it or said anyone was wrong. I simply said I will see what happens.
And if you want to be in the minority of people who think Vortechs suck then be my guest but do it somewhere else. They are by far the best powerhead I have ever used. Nothing else has come close.
Not to mention telling people its only a matter of time is ridiculous.
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JustinReef
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Yeah not bad ideas. I put the foam cover over it (the one it comes with) and I think that would help. Hopefully it just won't move again. I hear they really don't move much at all (least likely to move anyways) once they are happy. It hasn't moved even a tiny bit since moving the other day. Also looks happier than ever.
JustinReef
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When is this hobby not a risk?
I have devoted half of my tank to this nem if its wants it, stocked only 3 tiny fish so that I can keep it and still feed it and not pollute the tank, I do weekly water changes, only because I have the nem. I am doing a lot to keep it happy but one thing I am not doing is moving a powerhead that has nowhere else to go.
Not to mention I have a feeling moving the flow around will mean the nem will start moving again.
Hopefully it will settle, but I doubt it will be there long term, its too exposed and not perpendicular to the light.
When I got mine i had alot of sps in a 60 cube, (I know yor tank is bigger), As it grew I took most of the sps ( they will devastate any sps they touch) out and dedicated the tank to the anemone. That was always the long term plan.
If you have a nice big dedicated area for your nem in a 200 you should have ample room.
I would consider draining the tank down to the nems foot level and very slowly removing it with a credit card (you can sand down one of the edges) this should take about an hour, your corals will be fine if the lights are off and you splash them periodically.
Then relocate it to a flat ish rock near the sand.
I did this recently when I moved house and relocated my gig and it was not too bad, just be careful no prize fish are near the nem at the time and you are super slow and careful.
Then think why it may have moved does it have enough light and flow and als feel secure, it seems you water quality is pristine so thats not a prob.
Good luck
When I got mine i had alot of sps in a 60 cube, (I know yor tank is bigger), As it grew I took most of the sps ( they will devastate any sps they touch) out and dedicated the tank to the anemone. That was always the long term plan.
If you have a nice big dedicated area for your nem in a 200 you should have ample room.
I would consider draining the tank down to the nems foot level and very slowly removing it with a credit card (you can sand down one of the edges) this should take about an hour, your corals will be fine if the lights are off and you splash them periodically.
Then relocate it to a flat ish rock near the sand.
I did this recently when I moved house and relocated my gig and it was not too bad, just be careful no prize fish are near the nem at the time and you are super slow and careful.
Then think why it may have moved does it have enough light and flow and als feel secure, it seems you water quality is pristine so thats not a prob.
Good luck
Sorry to hijack, but
ADTRAVELS
What do you mean by perpendicular to the light? I understand the open(foot) theory, but as the nem is on the side of the tank, would that not be perpendicular?
Reason I ask, is mine has always been on a rock and overflow, now entirely on overflow. Always next to the sand. BUT mine has never faced fully to the light, especially the foot. Always perpendicular.
"Should" a healthy Gigantia body run parallel with the water surface "alot" of the time.
Could you elaborate.
Sorry again Justinreef, but I think we both need "hear" as much as we can with "keepers" of these animals. Looks like we are both doing our best, but a little more EXP cant hurt =).
ADTRAVELS
What do you mean by perpendicular to the light? I understand the open(foot) theory, but as the nem is on the side of the tank, would that not be perpendicular?
Reason I ask, is mine has always been on a rock and overflow, now entirely on overflow. Always next to the sand. BUT mine has never faced fully to the light, especially the foot. Always perpendicular.
"Should" a healthy Gigantia body run parallel with the water surface "alot" of the time.
Could you elaborate.
Sorry again Justinreef, but I think we both need "hear" as much as we can with "keepers" of these animals. Looks like we are both doing our best, but a little more EXP cant hurt =).
tufacody
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You have a very beautiful nem, and you are obviously doing something right. I agree that this hobby is risk, but its also about minimizing it. I consider progress in this hobby the continued minimalization of risk to the animals we keep.
I'm sorry if this came off indignant, I was just trying to save you and the nem a lot of injury. I realize there may be no option to cover a Vortech. I hope you stay lucky.
JustinReef
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No you didn't come off indignant at all.
I came looking for answers about the anemone as I don't have a ton of experience keeping them. I kept a bubbletip for 5 years or so and many tank transfers but it was pretty much bullet proof. I have no problem with people mentioning the powerhead issue but saying its just a matter of time is silly and repeating it over and over is useless. By the way, someone PM'd me about how they have had their gigantea (and many in the past) and it has not moved in 4 years now after finding a sweet spot.
I just don't want this thread to become all about the powerhead and wanted to be clear I am willing to take the chance. Whether people agree or not, I honestly don't care. I don't mean that to sound ignorant or arrogant but I know the risk and will be taking it.
These threads always get turned into "you know what will happen and its just a matter of time, blah, blah" and it gets old fast. Obviously the tangs in 4' tanks debate is the most common.
sorry for the confusion, mine also was attached to the glass for a time, I dont thint it matters if the foot is at right angles or perpendicular to the light as long as the oral disc can face upwards.
I am just concerned that at that position, in justin's tank there is signigicantly more risk of him loosing the anemone as they tend to move at night and, imo, it may be better to move it. The fact he has a foam cover on the vortech negates the threat a great deal and its up to him if he rides it out and the nem moves down.
I think we all want want is best for such a splendid animal, most of all justin I imagine.
tufacody
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ok, no more on the PH.
My gigantea is going on a month. Its is very dark green like yours, and the healthiest looking gig I have ever seen. It is very dark green like yours. I placed mine on the base of a rock right at the sand-line and hasn't moved since. Seems to be getting good flow. Since the nem was so darkly colored when I received it, I bypassed the screen acclimation, and raised my MH fixture as high as it would go. Yesterday I brought it down a little and he expanded even more, so I'm thinking he's ready for more light.
I also just recently started feeding. His feeding response is excellent. I'm feeding just small pieces, nothing bigger than an eraser on a pencil.
I agree that sharing knowledge on these guys is critical. But I'm not posting a pic of mine for fear of the curse!!
My gigantea is going on a month. Its is very dark green like yours, and the healthiest looking gig I have ever seen. It is very dark green like yours. I placed mine on the base of a rock right at the sand-line and hasn't moved since. Seems to be getting good flow. Since the nem was so darkly colored when I received it, I bypassed the screen acclimation, and raised my MH fixture as high as it would go. Yesterday I brought it down a little and he expanded even more, so I'm thinking he's ready for more light.
I also just recently started feeding. His feeding response is excellent. I'm feeding just small pieces, nothing bigger than an eraser on a pencil.
I agree that sharing knowledge on these guys is critical. But I'm not posting a pic of mine for fear of the curse!!
JustinReef
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Too bad, I would love to see it
What are you feeding it?
JustinReef
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<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=15124865#post15124865 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by adtravels
also here's what it could do to your sps, this was a healthy coral before I had the move, i gave it a chance but the nem won when it found its new home.
Well if it wants to kill SPS, I am kind of fine with that...obviously I would prefer it didn't but I am not going to worry too much if it finds a spot it likes near some SPS. Most of my SPS has browned out after the tank transfer anyways
I am thinking of getting rid of a bunch of SPS though and only keeping a few pieces to put up high on a rock and then moving the nem back down to the bottom of the tank. Especially since you guys are saying it should be facing up. It just looks so happy the last few days and I hate to annoy it but peeling it off the glass. I had to peel it off a rock once before when moving tanks and it wasn't fun (used a credit card). Although I suppose the glass would be much easier.
JustinReef
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OK, I have been feeding chopped squid, prawns, octopus, silversides, clam meat and some mysis. It seems to like all of it! I soak it all in vitamins but I am not sure how much that helps a nem. More for fish I think.
I have noticed my stupid female clown will sometimes try to pull the food out of its mouth, so I have to place the food quite close to the mouth so that the nem can eat it fast.
I've pulled a few clone BTA's off the glass or overflow with CCD's. Some of them weren't easy.
Would be a pain with a large Gig I imagine.
I mainly feed mine human consumer SW fish chunks.
My Gig also never opens up completely up toward the light. Always at an angle. And I'm only running T5.
Gotta be plenty of light though, as it was fairly bleached 3 months ago.
Would be a pain with a large Gig I imagine.
I mainly feed mine human consumer SW fish chunks.
My Gig also never opens up completely up toward the light. Always at an angle. And I'm only running T5.
Gotta be plenty of light though, as it was fairly bleached 3 months ago.
tufacody
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I wonder if you gigantea keepers would comment on your nems feeding behaviour a little. Last night I fed my gigantea a very small piece of silverside (about the size of an eraser head). It grabbed it, and then very quickly curled it up to its mouth. However tonight, I took a turkey baster and squirted some thawed krill into it. The pieces are obviously less dense than the silverside. Some krill stuck to it, but it never brought the food to its mouth like it did with the silverside. I'm wondering if this should be cause for concern, or if its normal?
According to Fenner/Calfo, these nems rarely see larger chunks of meat in their natural environment, feeding more on smaller particles in the water stream. If this is true, I wonder if nems consume these particles not so much by gathering them with their tentacles but rather through inhalation of water through the mouth? Perhaps only larger pieces trigger the tentacle to mouth response?
According to Fenner/Calfo, these nems rarely see larger chunks of meat in their natural environment, feeding more on smaller particles in the water stream. If this is true, I wonder if nems consume these particles not so much by gathering them with their tentacles but rather through inhalation of water through the mouth? Perhaps only larger pieces trigger the tentacle to mouth response?
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