filter sock replacement

[Zacktosterone]

I have a reef synergy ss34 sump.it has 2 filter sock holders that I'm trying to mod. Without filter socks the water creaking down is really loud. The reason I want to replace the socks with nothing is because I want to see if it makes a difference with my nitrates. Any suggestions?


http://synergyreef.com/our-products/photos/sumps/1front_ss-34/

As you can see, I can't remove the sock holders. Iwas thinking of using funnels but I'm not sure.

 

[sleepydoc]

I can't tell - what determines the water level in the first chamber? What is your overflow setup?

 

[Zacktosterone]

I can't tell - what determines the water level in the first chamber? What is your overflow setup?

The first baffle after the skimmer determines the 7" water level. Bean animal external overflow setup

 

[Zacktosterone]

anyone? 83 views but no suggestions?

 

[sleepydoc]

is it possible to simply extend the overflow pipes down so they are at the 7" water level? I'm trying to picture how it would be silent with the socks but not without them

 

[Zacktosterone]

is it possible to simply extend the overflow pipes down so they are at the 7" water level? I'm trying to picture how it would be silent with the socks but not without them

The pipes don't go into the sump. They go into a chamber that overflows over the socks. Take a look at the picture.

 

[atorres53]

I have a reef synergy ss34 sump.it has 2 filter sock holders that I'm trying to mod. Without filter socks the water creaking down is really loud. The reason I want to replace the socks with nothing is because I want to see if it makes a difference with my nitrates. Any suggestions?


http://synergyreef.com/our-products/photos/sumps/1front_ss-34/

As you can see, I can't remove the sock holders. Iwas thinking of using funnels but I'm not sure.

Attach a PVC pipe that goes below the level of the water in your sump and that should silence it.

 

[Zacktosterone]

Attach a PVC pipe that goes below the level of the water in your sump and that should silence it.

That's not possible. Take a look at the pictures. The way the bulk heads go in, they can't won't over to the fleet stock chamber

 

[CuzzA]

Pretty sump, but they definitely didn't put any thought into making it quiet. Which bulkhead is the full siphon? If it's the left one maybe you can get a 45 and some pipe on the nut side of the bulkhead to submerge the drain in the settling chamber. If a 45 won't work you can heat bend pvc by heating sand in an oven and pouring it in to the pipe and then bend it. Check out YouTube for how to videos. Finally if that doesn't work you could just cut out all of that unnecessary acrylic, including the lid. Put something down underneath to catch any acrylic chips or just let your socks filter it out. Then you can easily position the drains into the settling chamber.

As far as nitrates go, I doubt you'll see much of a difference. However I would expect water clarity to be diminished and an increase in floating particles. If the noise is coming from where the water flows into the sock you can make a flange out of sheet pvc and attach it to a larger diameter pvc pipe. Long enough to be submerged so the water flows like it would over a baffle or weir and not a waterfall. You could use acrylic too, but it may be more money and will accomplish the same thing. This could just sit right in the hole like a filter sock. Maybe even attach egg crate to the bottom to keep most critters out of the sump. Basically it would be similar to how many pond/pool overflows work.

Edit: I'm surprised that left bulkhead doesn't allow for a straight pipe to be submerged. They state this is "plug and play" with their overflow box which uses a bean drain.

 

[EvenFurther]

It seems like the water splashing and free falling thru is the problem?

Maybe fab something out of PVC sheet material and PVC pipe to fit the filter sock holes. Seems like you need something to guide the water into the chamber, and spread out the flow. Or maybe see if you can mount a temporary baffle on an angle, so the water flows onto the baffle at an angle. In other words, make a small baffle for the water to land on. Just throwing out ideas.

 

[Spaced Cowboy]

Get a long drill, drill plenty of large-bore holes through the long side of the sock enclosure and add pipe extensions to the returns (so they don't splash, now that the water level will be lower).

Or, use funnels as you suggest, perhaps with extension tubes on the small end, so that the water doesn't splash at all.

Simon.

 

[Zacktosterone]

Get a long drill, drill plenty of large-bore holes through the long side of the sock enclosure and add pipe extensions to the returns (so they don't splash, now that the water level will be lower).

Or, use funnels as you suggest, perhaps with extension tubes on the small end, so that the water doesn't splash at all.

Simon.

That makes the most sense

 

[shred5]

Yea I dont like filter socks and have a few sumps with that same design.

As for water coming out of the bulkheads I always put a pvc pipe with holes drilled in it at the bottom of the bulkheads so water was not free falling.

Anyway for the actual holes for the filter socks I always wanted to add something that would allow for like carbon or gfo instead, some kind of basket.

Instead of felt socks I us the more mesh like socks with larger holes so most passes through. It just stops the larger particulate matter.

 

[Zacktosterone]

It seems like the water splashing and free falling thru is the problem?

Maybe fab something out of PVC sheet material and PVC pipe to fit the filter sock holes. Seems like you need something to guide the water into the chamber, and spread out the flow. Or maybe see if you can mount a temporary baffle on an angle, so the water flows onto the baffle at an angle. In other words, make a small baffle for the water to land on. Just throwing out ideas.

That won't work. . That means the water in the first chamber will just sit there and become Stagnant.