Finally an easy solution to bryopsis!

[Roland Jacques]

Could this reaction of Bryopsis die off be due to sulphate ions and not really the mg? Just thinking out loud here.

As i just went though this it seems Epson salt, Reef Advantage ( which appears to be 4 parts Epson salt / one part mg chloride) and Kent M Tech (???) have the best results in killing the bryopsis. With the higher chloride mg having much lesser effects on Bryopsis. Any thoughts?

 

[TWallace]

It's possible the sulfate has something to do with it. I tried using solely Mag Flake (magnesium chloride) and it had no effect on the bryopsis. I don't know what Tech M has in it, but it worked in both my systems.

 

[raddogz]

I can't pinpoint for sure as I have been making multiple changes at this point. Ever since I have removed the eggcrate the growth of the hair algae has slowed down considerably.

 

[Mr31415]

I read the first couple of pages from this topic a while ago and tried using Mg to zap my bryopsis. It seems as if this thread is long since off topic (I might be wrong - was too lazy to catch up), but here is my experiences.

Well, it did not work. Bryopsis is happier than ever. However it *did* kill all my pink hair algae. Maybe it helps someone else.

 

[Roland Jacques]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10278914#post10278914 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Mr31415
I read the first couple of pages from this topic a while ago and tried using Mg to zap my bryopsis. It seems as if this thread is long since off topic (I might be wrong - was too lazy to catch up), but here is my experiences.

Well, it did not work. Bryopsis is happier than ever. However it *did* kill all my pink hair algae. Maybe it helps someone else.

What kind of mg did you use? That is really where the topic is now.

 

[TimTen]

great info thanks a lot

 

[Mr31415]

I could not get my hands on anything other than Tropic Marine's BioMagnesium. I know - not the best choice.

 

[wilsonh]

Well just to repeat, has anyone used the Kent product and it has NOT worked?

If there has been 100% success with that product it would just about wrap it up. It would then be a case of What's In It?

 

[raddogz]

If I only made that one change then I can say "yes" to your question. It seemed to take me forever to get to the 1600ppm range for my 120g system, once there I made so many dramatic changes it's difficult for me to say that was the decisive magic bullet.

 

[Roland Jacques]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10279607#post10279607 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wilsonh
Well just to repeat, has anyone used the Kent product and it has NOT worked?

If there has been 100% success with that product it would just about wrap it up. It would then be a case of What's In It?

This is how it looks to me so far

Epson salt = 100% successful (only 2 people have tried it)

Kent Tech M = 100% successful (what's in it? I'm guessing Epson salt.)
I have to conclude it is Epson Salt because most who have tried chloride had very poor success. and What else could be the deference?

I know im jumping to this conclusion. At this point it seems reasonable, don't you think?

Maybe some of those others who failed with the chloride will try the Epson salt.

 

[Peter Eichler]

Epsom is a salt, Epson makes printers

I wish I still had some Bryopsis I'd buy a few 10 gallons and do some experiments.

 

[Travis]

Like I mentioned earlier, mag flake didn't work for me. If pure epsom salt is what it takes then I will live with the bryopsis. I'm not going to risk dumping that much sulfate in my tank to get rid of the bryopsis. I have way too much to lose in regards to corals. And if Kent's product is pure Epsom I will stay away from that too. But I have a hunch, that it is not. I don't think they would put a product out that has that high of a risk of poisoning a reef tank without the proper warnings. But then I could be wrong, some companies in this industry have some pretty shady practices.

 

[Goodwin9]

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Kent Tech M = 100% successful (what's in it? I'm guessing Epson salt.) [/B]

Contents of Kent Marine Tech-M;

Deionized water containing the following elements (as ions): magnesium, chlorine, sulfur, calcium, potassium, bromine, strontium, boron, fluorine, lithium, rubidium, iodine, iron, molybdenum, zinc, nickel, copper, manganese, vanadium, cesium, cobalt, tungsten, selenium, and chromium.

 

[wilsonh]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10280521#post10280521 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Roland Jacques
This is how it looks to me so far

Epson salt = 100% successful (only 2 people have tried it)

Kent Tech M = 100% successful (what's in it? I'm guessing Epson salt.)
I have to conclude it is Epson Salt because most who have tried chloride had very poor success. and What else could be the deference?

I know im jumping to this conclusion. At this point it seems reasonable, don't you think?

I'll go with that, and as Goodwin9 pointed out, one of the Kent ingredients is sulfur. So I might give epsom salt a try. Trouble is I've already taken the Mg to over 1500, so not much room to get a heckuva lot of Epsom salt in there. But I'll give it a shot.

 

[jda]

This is a great thread.

Good to know that there are options. A big pile of mexican turbos ate all of my byropsis, but this would have been easier.

 

[TWallace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10284529#post10284529 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by wilsonh
I'll go with that, and as Goodwin9 pointed out, one of the Kent ingredients is sulfur. So I might give epsom salt a try. Trouble is I've already taken the Mg to over 1500, so not much room to get a heckuva lot of Epsom salt in there. But I'll give it a shot.

I went through something similar. I tried Mag Flake in my QT and boosted mag to over 1900, no effect on bryopsis. So I ordered some more Tech M, which I knew already worked in my main system. Before adding it, I did a huge water change to lower the mag to about 1500. Then started adding Tech M. I didn't measure the mag this time, I just started dosing (it's only a QT after all, only inhabitants at the time were two astrea snails). Within days the bryopsis turned brown and started melting away. It's all gone now, and my beautiful valonia garden can be seen in all its majesty.

 

[TWallace]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10284744#post10284744 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by jda
This is a great thread.

Good to know that there are options. A big pile of mexican turbos ate all of my byropsis, but this would have been easier.

Interesting, I tried several kinds of turbos including Mexican, they wanted nothing to do with bryopsis. Are you sure your algae was bryopsis? I've never heard of a success story with snails and bryopsis.

 

[Travis]

I've also had success with turbos eating bryopsis. You have to keep the bryopsis plucked so it is nice and short and the turbos can mow through it. I just can't stand turbos because they knock everything over.

 

[jda]

Absolutely it was. They won't go near it if there is an "easier" algae around, but they will destroy it if there is nothing else to eat. I put about 30 large ones (maybe 1") in my 90 and they started in on it in about a week (easy algae gone) and had it all polished off in about 3 weeks to a month.

I also removed as much by had as possible.

 

[Roland Jacques]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10283716#post10283716 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Travis
Like I mentioned earlier, mag flake didn't work for me. If pure epsom salt is what it takes then I will live with the bryopsis. I'm not going to risk dumping that much sulfate in my tank to get rid of the bryopsis. I have way too much to lose in regards to corals. And if Kent's product is pure Epsom I will stay away from that too. But I have a hunch, that it is not. I don't think they would put a product out that has that high of a risk of poisoning a reef tank without the proper warnings. But then I could be wrong, some companies in this industry have some pretty shady practices.

I would not call it shady to use MG sulphate. Many chemist have deferent opinions as to how much of it you should use in a reef. But they all agree you should use it. You can look back in Chem forum and see some Chem people stand by using sulphate over chloride. Me I don't no enough about it personally. FWIW I do no of many people use Epom salt with no issues.