RubberFrog
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Wait a second... are you guys saying that some of you actually care what equipment I have in my tank? And it bothers some of you guys? WHY?! lol
First Impression Vortech MP40wES - thumbs down?
- Thread starter rhwimmers
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I have seen enough of these threads to know what to expect when I start reading... this one did not disappoint but then I read it for entertainment value. I personally don't own a Vortech but then I don't own any pump. As a matter of fact my tank hasn't even arrived yet. I only have a stand and an RODI. The stand I built myself. With the RODI I bought I suffered the same debate.. it costs too much, it's over kill, it's overpriced, you coulda woulda shoulda bought this indstead, you're a newbie and you made good choice, you're a newbie and just made a dumb purchase, yada yada yada. So now I read this thread about an MP40... it's noisy, it's not noisy, it's noisy, it's not noisy, you're a whiner, you're a fanboy.
I decided that only I can't tell if it is noisy TO ME when I hear it on MY tank. I know I prefer not having a wire or a motor in my tank. I know I wanted excellent customer service which is something that most seem to agree on about Ecotech. I know I prefer the way they look compared to other models and yes they do seem to move water as they are supposed to. So you know what? I bought a new MP60 ... it's on the way. Once I get it all connected and I am sitting there looking at my own tank I will decide. If it's too noisy for me I already know what I'll do. I'll post it and sell it! These things have a high resale value; there is a good aftermarket for them. So I'll pay the price (don't we all?) to learn something and move on. I'll buy something else.
Now, that's my biggest question though to all those who think the Vortech is too loud... not those who say "Yes it's loud but I love it" but for all those that say "It's too loud and I can hear it right now"...why the heck don't you just sell it and go get something else??? It's not like you pinched pennies to buy it; they ain't cheap. Sell it!!!
I decided that only I can't tell if it is noisy TO ME when I hear it on MY tank. I know I prefer not having a wire or a motor in my tank. I know I wanted excellent customer service which is something that most seem to agree on about Ecotech. I know I prefer the way they look compared to other models and yes they do seem to move water as they are supposed to. So you know what? I bought a new MP60 ... it's on the way. Once I get it all connected and I am sitting there looking at my own tank I will decide. If it's too noisy for me I already know what I'll do. I'll post it and sell it! These things have a high resale value; there is a good aftermarket for them. So I'll pay the price (don't we all?) to learn something and move on. I'll buy something else.
Now, that's my biggest question though to all those who think the Vortech is too loud... not those who say "Yes it's loud but I love it" but for all those that say "It's too loud and I can hear it right now"...why the heck don't you just sell it and go get something else??? It's not like you pinched pennies to buy it; they ain't cheap. Sell it!!!
Saadatski
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Well, i kinda gave up with these Vortech Vs the World threads. I started one to understand why many of these people buy these pumps, and i hear the same thing. "wider flow, motor outside, less space in tank." They definetly do that, but once someone disagrees, there goes the "will defend Ectotech with my life" people go in for the kill. They pounce on the Tunze and Koralia people like lions. This may be the problem with some people on this forum. They are convinced they are right with all they do, and anyone that defies them saying their idea is better and cheaper, they immediately attack their idea and their life and even their tank. I saw this on my thread which was locked because of this debate. People will defend their overpriced equipment with their hearts and limbs.
good luck OP, dont allow people to offend you, and you will come across both sides of the radicals. dont let it get to you.
good luck OP, dont allow people to offend you, and you will come across both sides of the radicals. dont let it get to you.
As ridiculous as these threads become after a while, they do serve a purpose. If anyone comes to RC and actually uses the search button they will see this same noise issue in reference to Vortech and hopefully before they blow money on one they will go listen to one in person and decide if they can live with it. They are fantastic water movers but silent they are not. Some of us cannot stand the noise and have gone to great lengths to make our system as silent as possible. To us, it makes a difference, to others it will not.
SWKustoms
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Id have to say my mp40 is pretty damn quiet and it's been running for just over 24hrs on different modes full throttle. I barely hear it and I sit three feet away on the couch. I also know its not loud because my wife hasent said anything about it and I just asked her if its noisy and her reply was "I don't hear anything". I may just be lucky...Who knows.
Saadatski
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Agreed. This is why i post my opinion once, and there is no point of these arguments because neither side will change their opinions. Also, I am not criticizing these people for defending themselves, cause i would definetly defend myself if i spent 450 dollars in general. If i do not defend myself, then why did i buy it? Just stating natural human characteristics.
SkullV
They Got My Number
Most of the complaints about EcoTech (and other high end equipment) pricing is from people who do not own them. I have also noticed that many of the people who complain about the price of these products don't pay for them themselves anyway (still living at home or being paid for by parents).
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TucanSam007
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I would understand if Vortechs pumps were created equal with the same noise level. I have two Mp10wes both on 100 percent reef crest. The thing that bothers me is one is silent and the other is a little more on the noisy side when it revs up (wet side). If I'm spending this kind of money I want equal noise levels at least! haha. It's really not that big of a deal though, can't complain 
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James77
Team RC
LOL, what a joke.
SkullV
They Got My Number
It seems to me at least that most of the adults on this forum just don't buy products when they take issue with the price rather than starting threads complaining about it.
James77
Team RC
Most of the complaints have nothing to do with price, but the performance or noise of the product. But they then get pounced on by people saying they are not adults, living in their parents house, unable to align pumps, or just plain whining.
Most of the adults on this forum can accept a product they like receiving some crtiticism from others without attacking them.
SkullV
They Got My Number
You misunderstood what I said then. I am not commenting on owners/past owners who are unhappy with the performance of the product. It is the recent threads (all seem to have been deleted) created by non-owners complaining SPECIFICALLY about the price of the products.
I am all for people who own/use/have used the products complaining about them if they don't like them.
Edit: Changed 2 words in my op to clarify what I meant.
James77
Team RC
There have been very few threads, and certainly not this one, that deal strictly with the price. It is a common theme in every single Vortech vs whatever thread that anyone that complains about anything about the pump is dismissed as *****ing about nothing, or that they must be doing something wrong. The vast majority of posts that are negative towards Vortechs are from current or former owners.
SkullV
They Got My Number
I have actually seen quite a few pricing complaints lately, particularly with the holiday sales.
I agree that the pumps aren't silent, I can't hear them unless I am within a foot of mine, but I have heard/seen Vortechs that are louder than mine. Other than the noise within 1ft of the pump I have no complaints.
I'm all for people who actually own/have owned the equipment making comments, it is what drives companies to make better products. I think your figure stating that the vast majority of comments being from current/past owners is grossly overstated though.
Garage1217
GET OFF MY LAWN
I have noticed different noise levels on vortechs as well. Some are loud and some are practically silent. Just today I checked out a large unit which I assume is a mp60 that was super quiet at a local store of ours (Reef Culture). In fact I could barely tell it was running even 1' away. The majority of the ones I have encountered sound like my washing machine in the laundry room with the door closed. Just a whish whish whish noise. Not something I could ever handle. Just enough to hear it and be annoying. My tank is in my office so I would loose my marbles if I did get a slightly noisy unit. I do love the looks and general idea of the vortechs but not the price vs. a relatively short 1 year warranty for such a pricey device. I guess I am getting spoiled by companies really standing up for their products warranty wise and offering 3 or more year warranties. If vortech did quiet down the pumps a bit from what I have heard in person and offered a better warranty, I might actually be game to check a pair out. The cash does not bother me at all as the design and functionality are there for sure. But the sound and 1 year warranty vs the price detour me immediately. All the planets need to align for me to make a big purchase, that is for sure
I would mention another brand of variable pump that I have checked out multiple times, that actually is very quiet if not silent.... but the last time I mentioned another brand in the same paragraph as the almighty vortech, I had to run to get a flame suit from the hardcore vortech patrol. However I will be purchasing brand X instead as the planets have aligned for me with that product.
I would mention another brand of variable pump that I have checked out multiple times, that actually is very quiet if not silent.... but the last time I mentioned another brand in the same paragraph as the almighty vortech, I had to run to get a flame suit from the hardcore vortech patrol. However I will be purchasing brand X instead as the planets have aligned for me with that product.
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SkullV
They Got My Number
It's like you want to cause an argument or something.....
Either way I would like to know the other brand of pump. Trying to put together a budget tank for a friend of mine.
Garage1217
GET OFF MY LAWN
Will PM it to you.
SkullV
They Got My Number
Thanks.
DanEnglish
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there are numerous peer reviewed scientific articles demonstrating that people rate products higher if they have already laid out money for them. no experience with vortechs per sse, but this much is true.
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