First Impression Vortech MP40wES - thumbs down?
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RubberFrog
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That's exactly my point. You went with it for aesthetic reasons. As you said, "Tunze puts out amazing flow". But you still went with a Vortech because you didn't want the wires.
Anybody buying a Vortech, and expecting it to do something other pumps can't/don't do, is going to be very disappointed when they turn it on.
davocean
Active member
There doesn't seem to be very many pieces of equipment that we use that doesn't come w/out some sort of compromise.
I wish Tunze could copy Ecotech's design, I doubt there would be as many issues or noise.
If you find them too noisy I would try to fine tune them in mating the wet to dry side, it seems to make a big difference w/ slight adjustments.
But overall I certainly don't give vorts two thumbs down, more like one thumb up, one sideways!LOL
I wish Tunze could copy Ecotech's design, I doubt there would be as many issues or noise.
If you find them too noisy I would try to fine tune them in mating the wet to dry side, it seems to make a big difference w/ slight adjustments.
But overall I certainly don't give vorts two thumbs down, more like one thumb up, one sideways!LOL
lordofthereef
One reef to rule them all
I can think of two possible issues. Either your pump truly is abnormally loud, or you have very poor sound isolation in your walls. Do you hear conversations between rooms with doors closed as well?
BlueDartReefer
Member
Next thing you know, people will start to complain about not being able to angle these things!
Finally, my understanding is that if you want a quiet MP40, you buy an MP60 and dial it down. Just extra money. ;-)[/QUOTE]
If I were to complain, it would be that I can't angle them.:lolspin:
I ran one MP40 on our 90G for almost two years before upgrading to a 265G. Now I don't hear any noise from my MP40....... over the noise of my newly acquired MP60- which I love.
Finally, my understanding is that if you want a quiet MP40, you buy an MP60 and dial it down. Just extra money. ;-)[/QUOTE]
If I were to complain, it would be that I can't angle them.:lolspin:
I ran one MP40 on our 90G for almost two years before upgrading to a 265G. Now I don't hear any noise from my MP40....... over the noise of my newly acquired MP60- which I love.
My MP10 is much louder than I expected.
I did not buy it for aesthetics but for temp control.
Would I buy one again. Not sure. Not a lot of other options for
current without 10-20 Watt of in tank heat.
However, the noise is very bothersome.
i can't run my Mp10 above about 60% due to noise.
I think vortech is not up front about the level of noise these things produce
I did not buy it for aesthetics but for temp control.
Would I buy one again. Not sure. Not a lot of other options for
current without 10-20 Watt of in tank heat.
However, the noise is very bothersome.
i can't run my Mp10 above about 60% due to noise.
I think vortech is not up front about the level of noise these things produce
Eurobeaner
New member
Sheesh. Bunch of complainers. Here. Let's have vortec say that these pumps are LOUD.... That's not true. If you align everything correctly and have a NEW pump (not a potentially 3 year old motor and complain of noise) then it should not be any louder than a normal fan in a lighting fixture. If it is, that's when you call the fantastic customer service and complain. Not come on a forum and rant and rave. You DO know there are warranties, and you DO you know customer service still exist in the year 2011 and ecotech proves this.
Now, if you are whining about a pump you bought used (don't care if it's "one week" old) then you PAID LESS for a reason. I have 4 used mp40's, and one never used mp20 I upgraded. The new upgraded 40 is a million times quieter than my older pumps... Both wet and dry sides. You gotta pay full price if you want to get a quiet warrantied pump. Otherwise it's like complaining that your used car isn't as reliable as a brand new one. Uhhhhhh DUH, you paid 3/4- half the price as new, what did you expect
Now, if you are whining about a pump you bought used (don't care if it's "one week" old) then you PAID LESS for a reason. I have 4 used mp40's, and one never used mp20 I upgraded. The new upgraded 40 is a million times quieter than my older pumps... Both wet and dry sides. You gotta pay full price if you want to get a quiet warrantied pump. Otherwise it's like complaining that your used car isn't as reliable as a brand new one. Uhhhhhh DUH, you paid 3/4- half the price as new, what did you expect
tkeracer619
New member
This is what my tank sounds like with 4 mp40 pumps. Kinda gotta turn it up to really hear the Vortechs. Everything else drowns them out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNYgEL1QEdc
The mic is pretty sensitive.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNYgEL1QEdc
The mic is pretty sensitive.
James77
Team RC
Im not one to whine jsut to whine, but when I could hear any of the Vortechs I have owned over the last few years 15+ feet away in the next room it is irritating. Did I expect them to be silent? Initially, yes. Every experience i read about them claimed them to be silent. There was my lesson in subjective experiences.
Yes, they are noisy becuase the motor is exposed to air. That does not change the fact that they are noisy. Some people do not want excessive noise, no matter what it is from.
The big ugly pump, Tunze, is about twice the size of the Vortech. Nice thing about it is that it can be put anywhere you like, and pointed in any direction. The Vortech is stcuk in one position, usually right smack in the middle on the side of a tank.
So which would I take? I'll take the big, ugly silent pump that I can place near invisibly on the back wall over the whirring, buzzing "discreet" pump that I can hear in the next room and cannot help but see sitting right in the middle of my side viewing panes.
James77
Team RC
Ahhh...the ol' must be mis-aligned theory. The pumps make noise, period. I have owned 3 of them ranging from when they first came out to the generation 2s, ALL make noise that can easily be heard 15-20 feet away.
You DO KNOW that EcoTech themselves has stated the pump makes noise and that they received enough complaints of it to work to make the MP60 quieter, right? You DO KNOW that there have been enough issues of noise, from people perfectly capable of aligning pumps(a 2 year old could do it) to show that there is a noise issue that may bother some people. The noise has NOTHING to do with alignment, it is the noise the dry motor makes. It would make the smae noise in the palm of your hand, but i bet you'd still claim it to be an alignment issue.
Funny, I paid full price for brand new pumps, and they were all unacceptably loud. Maybe you could accept that others are not willing to tolerate what you will in terms of noise?
James77
Team RC
I agree. If the somewhat larger visual appearance of the Tunzes were an issue for me, i would go Vortech. But noise is the issue I decide on. Tunzes cannot be heard more than a couple inches from the tank. Every single reefer that has seen my tank has commented on it being so silent, and the next thing they ask is how do I do it. It is so peaceful having a beautiful tank and hearing nothing.
davocean
Active member
Yeah that's a must see informative vid.:eek1:
pledosophy
Active member
I tried to watch the video but could not hear anything, but then again I am in the same room with my 2 vortechs 
I have had silent tanks. Creeped me out at first when I got it "silent" as it was three feet from my pillow. Would wake up at night thinking the power was off and open the stand. But it was fine. Silent is possible.
Vortechs are not silent, they never will be, no matter how clean and how aligned they are. You can get other powerheads that will be silent, but for what the Vortech delivers, it is worth it to me. If the Vortechs are off, from 3 feet away from the tank you can not tell if my power is on or off.
Yes I am "picky" about noise, but I still bought a second vortech just cuz it's that cool and provides more then other powerheads do.
JMO
I have had silent tanks. Creeped me out at first when I got it "silent" as it was three feet from my pillow. Would wake up at night thinking the power was off and open the stand. But it was fine. Silent is possible.
Vortechs are not silent, they never will be, no matter how clean and how aligned they are. You can get other powerheads that will be silent, but for what the Vortech delivers, it is worth it to me. If the Vortechs are off, from 3 feet away from the tank you can not tell if my power is on or off.
Yes I am "picky" about noise, but I still bought a second vortech just cuz it's that cool and provides more then other powerheads do.
JMO
I love these pumps they are great pumps and I would love a third. You can't get much better for footprint in the tank. The flow is more wide swept than linear like a typical powerhead which is why I think some get the notion that it's not as strong. If you have two wireless pumps you can sync them without a controller. If you have a controller you can run several different modes and intensities throughout the day like I do with my apex. One of the best things they offer are the ability to run on the battery backups for 36-72 hours (depending on how many pumps or size pump) in the event of a power outage. About the only thing better than that is if you have a generator. They are a little loud at times but you get used to it quick and don't notice it so much. They may be expensive but you get good customer support and tons of capability with these pumps. It makes it all worth it.
davocean
Active member
They could, but they do seem to vary.
A couple of mine are brand new, a couple used, when I walked into the house where I got a used 40, and didn't hear anything, I asked him to turn it on full power, and he showed me it was on full power already, I smiled and broke out the wallet!LOL
Of the 4 I have, it's a brand new 40 that makes that whine, but it's not that bad.
Yeah, I have two myself, davo, but I don't have a "silent" tank, so I don't notice them, and have no idea if I would consider them loud or not. I can say that during the power outage, when basically the vortech on low was the only thing making noise in my entire condo complex, I could hear it...
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