Fish still flashing after TTM

Kaiser699a

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I recently did 2 lots of TTM due to ich on my fish and they are now in QT while the DT remains fallow for 90 days. After a week or so in QT I can see a few of them flashing their gills on rare occasions. I am hoping the TTM has cured the ich they had and I can't see any white spots although I know that is not 100% since ich can go unnoticed in gills. Again, hopefully that is not the case since I just finished TTM. Given that I have just finished TTM and all visible spots are gone is it safe to assume they have flukes and need treated for that? I was dosing the QT with paraguard for the last couple of days, could that be irritating their gills? Just not sure what to do next so advice from more experienced folks would be welcome.
 
I would assume flukes, definitely treat with prazi. You could have treated with prazi while doing ttm.
 
Ok good.
I have some veterinarian praziquantel based stuff (in UK no prazi) called Vetark that is supposed to be good. Any guidance how long I need to discontinue paraguard before I can start the fluke treatment? It says not to use with other treatments but how long will it hang around in the tank before I can start something else?.
 
I don't know if you have to go all that distance but I'm sure that would clear out the paraguard. You could always ask on the searches website too.
 
A FW dip will remove some of the flukes but not all. It would be a great way to confirm if he has flukes. Since the fish were never treated for flukes and they're flashing, a fluke treatment should be done.

I don't know if formalin is sold in the UK.
 
I have veterinarian fluke treatment so I think I will use it and see where I am. I was interested to see if folks agreed that it was likely flukes before doing another treatment and that seems to be the case.
 
Put fluke treatment in the tank last night. Maybe I am being optimistic but it seemed like the fish calmed down a fair bit within an hour. Would/could this stuff work that fast... wow!

How long do I need to leave before a follow up treatment to catch any hatched eggs missed by this first go?
 
Fish still flashing after TTM

Follow up treatment in 5-7 days, do not go before 5 or longer than 7 or you'll have to start over.

Praziquantel will kill most of the flukes in a matter of hours, but letting it run for at least 48 hours is recommended. After that, you can do a water change if needed. Definitely do one before the second dose.


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Paraguard is inactive after 24 hrs. WC will speed this up. Also keep in mind that ttm does nothing for velvet or Brooklynella so keep those fish in qt for an additional 2-3 weeks to make sure it was ick. Prazipro works in 24 hrs however as theshocker mentioned 5-7 days is best then do a 25 % WC and redose for another 5-7 days. When paraguard is dosed at 5 mls per 10 gallons I e never seen it cause irritation however I have seen it cause irritation when used as a bath 3 mls per gallon
 
I used Paraguard in 5mls per 10 gallons so was probably not the cause of irritation.

I spoke too soon though. My Exquisite Wrasse is still pretty erratic and flashing. Second dose of Prazi on Wednesday might do the trick. Fingers crossed.
 
What's your water peramiters? Also what dose are you using of praziquantel? This can be a source of irritation also Api general cure is a good choice for sensetive fish it is a lower dosage of praziquantel but still thereputic it also contains metronidazole. Metronidazole is good for anerobic bacteria and Protozoa like ick. One more ? Ttm how did you perform it?
 
Metro will not treat ich, it is an antibiotic. It does however work with brooklynella and uronema.

Some flukes are prazi resistant so after your second dose, if it doesn't clear things up, then perform a third. Let's wait and see what the second dose does first.
 
Description

MetroPlexâ„¢ is an effective and safe treatment for several protozoan and anaerobic bacterial diseases of fish (Cryptocaryon, Hexamita, Ichthyophthirius). It does not adversely affect the filter bed and is easily removed with carbon. It can either be dosed into the water or combined with Focusâ„¢ in a medicated food mix. It will treat both internal and external infections regardless of the delivery method. When used in a medicated food mix, it is excellent for treating parasites in tanks that contain invertebrates. MetroPlex is gentle and there little danger of overdosing.

Types of Infections Treated

Parasitic Fungal Bacterial Viral
MetroPlex
Directions

Dosing in Water

Remove all invertebrates - these are extremely sensitive to medication. Turn off UV filters, ozone filters, and remove chemical filtration like MatrixCarbonâ„¢ and Purigenâ„¢. Use 1-2 measures (included) per every 40 L (10 US gallons). Repeat this dose every 48 hours for up to 3 weeks or until symptoms disappear.

Dosing in Food

Feed the medicated food mix (recipe below) every day until the infection clears or up to 3 weeks. This medicated food can be refrigerated or frozen between feedings.

1 scoop MetroPlex
1 scoop Focusâ„¢
1 tbsp food (preferably pellets or frozen food)
A few drops of water if using a dry food
To enhance palatability use with GarlicGuardâ„¢ or Enticeâ„¢.

After Treating

When the treatment period is over, MetroPlexâ„¢ can easily be removed using activated filter carbon like MatrixCarbonâ„¢. It does not linger in the substrate or filter media of the tank.

Active ingredients: metronidazole (70%)Inactive ingredients: excipients (30%)

Sizes

5 g, 100 g

Common Fish Diseases Treatable with MetroPlex

Ich (White Spot)
Ichthyophthirius (freshwater) / Cryptocaryon (saltwater)
Looks like salt sprinkled on the fish's body and fins. Usually accompanied by twitching, flashing, and other signs of stress and irritation. Several parasites are grouped under this name, but the symptoms are almost identical. Ich is among the most common infections of fish, and is entirely treatable with diligence and attention to water quality.
Suggested Treatment Period:
14-28 days
Special Considerations
It is very important with this parasite to continue dosing for the full treatment period. A break in the medication allows the parasite to multiply and reinfect the fish.
Velvet
Hole in the Head / Head and Lateral Line Erosion
They're not always on the fish!

Ich, velvet, and many other parasites spend a large portion of their life cycle as a cyst that is immune to medication and hiding in the substrate of your tank. Remember that you need to finish the full treatment even if you can't see parasites on the fish any more!
 
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