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CStrickland
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I think that after treating with copper, something like cuprisorb is the appropriate adsorbant http://www.marinedepot.com/Seachem_..._Filter_Media-Seachem-SC3271-FIFMCHCR-vi.html
it can take on a lot of copper, and can be regenerated too.
polyfilter is good for removing mystery issues though. I keep some on hand just in case.
ETA: the issue with copper is that it is pretty effective at treating certain parasites, and for a long time it was the only treatment we had, so it's pretty common. Unfortunately, it is really hard on all the other animals in the tank, so coral and snails and just about everything but the fish (some fish too). And, it soaks into the rocks and sand so that they release it later. The parasite treatment is a couple parts copper per million parts water, but it only takes a few parts per billion to wreck coral. For those reasons, even treating copper in QT is kinda old school, and nobody adds it to the DT.
But, if you think about what the fish go through to get to us, is surprising they aren't in worse shape. Like, its a wild animal taken from the ocean and shipped halfway around the world, then mixed in with a whole bunch of other animals in an Ellis Island-type warehouse, before it even gets to the shop. Plus, larger fish are often returned to the shop after someone gave up on them, so that's not working in your favor. That's why you have to be really cautious with diseases, especially when you are adding to a tank that's doing ok b/c it only takes one patient zero to knock out your whole investment.
Here is a good website to look up how much tank different fish need, and whether they are good choices for a beginner or more difficult (a lot of fish are picky eaters, or just don't tend to thrive in new tanks, it's the whole wild animal thing again - some don't domesticate as easy). It also lists fish by whether they are reef-safe (not prone to eat coral) and how big they will get etc. http://www.liveaquaria.com/
it can take on a lot of copper, and can be regenerated too.
polyfilter is good for removing mystery issues though. I keep some on hand just in case.
ETA: the issue with copper is that it is pretty effective at treating certain parasites, and for a long time it was the only treatment we had, so it's pretty common. Unfortunately, it is really hard on all the other animals in the tank, so coral and snails and just about everything but the fish (some fish too). And, it soaks into the rocks and sand so that they release it later. The parasite treatment is a couple parts copper per million parts water, but it only takes a few parts per billion to wreck coral. For those reasons, even treating copper in QT is kinda old school, and nobody adds it to the DT.
But, if you think about what the fish go through to get to us, is surprising they aren't in worse shape. Like, its a wild animal taken from the ocean and shipped halfway around the world, then mixed in with a whole bunch of other animals in an Ellis Island-type warehouse, before it even gets to the shop. Plus, larger fish are often returned to the shop after someone gave up on them, so that's not working in your favor. That's why you have to be really cautious with diseases, especially when you are adding to a tank that's doing ok b/c it only takes one patient zero to knock out your whole investment.
Here is a good website to look up how much tank different fish need, and whether they are good choices for a beginner or more difficult (a lot of fish are picky eaters, or just don't tend to thrive in new tanks, it's the whole wild animal thing again - some don't domesticate as easy). It also lists fish by whether they are reef-safe (not prone to eat coral) and how big they will get etc. http://www.liveaquaria.com/
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thanks cstrickland & sk8r. I do look at liveaquaria during research on fish before purchase. Also i'm not ready for reef yet just trying to get my feet wet with f/o, but I do know once i'm ready that I have to change my live rock & sand because of the cooper. I do a lot of research also brstv.
salinity-1.019-Nitrite & ammonia 0ppm, nitrate 25ppm-ph-8.2,temp-77.
Current tank info-125gal FOWLR 50pds LR, sump/w bio-balls, uv-sterilizer. Fish: dogface puffer, porcupine puffer, coral beauty, aurgia butterfly
salinity-1.019-Nitrite & ammonia 0ppm, nitrate 25ppm-ph-8.2,temp-77.
Current tank info-125gal FOWLR 50pds LR, sump/w bio-balls, uv-sterilizer. Fish: dogface puffer, porcupine puffer, coral beauty, aurgia butterfly
CStrickland
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Well, the obvious thing would be aggression, but if you still have the pic that you took to the store it wouldn't hurt to post it here to be sure. Uronemea can kill fast and leaves red sores that might look like an injury, also a pic of the sick fish too. Since depending what is wrong, the copper could be weakening them, like you need the right meds for the right disease. Also, I think you can dim the lights and spoil them with food a little bit to keep their immune systems up. When fish are fat and relaxed they recover muuuch better. Maybe throw in a few chunks of PVC to make sure everyone has a few choices for hiding places if you don't want to add rocks for that?
