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what is this one called. i like it.
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what is this one called. i like it.
TriggerHappyDude
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Nice job getting this tank back up and going after the move!
I loved this tank build when it was dudesters and you've done awesome with it now.
I'd like to ask you a few questions, as I'm in the planning and design stages of a similar tank, with AGE as my custom tank of choice.
I'm very new to plumbing a sump and fuge etc...what all did you bring over from dudesters? You have the sump, do you know how many gallons it is? What all do you have down in there; reactors, skimmers, etc? What filtration is being used? What chemicals or bio media is being used?
What about the plumbing do you like the most, and what do you wished you would/could change now?
And from what I could tell and read, you have the water level as low as it is so you can have the wave maker make waves right?
What is the most PITA part of a tank this size? Cleaning and maintenance? About how much time a day do you spend with the tank? How often do you scrap algae? Do you have any bad algae pests or do you attribute your equipment to great water quality?
I'm just trying to figure out what I'm getting into if I move up from my little 34g Nano tank to something of this size, and what all is involved in maintaining one etc...
In the beginning you had all this...is it still the same?
Where do you keep your ATO chamber? I saw underneath the stand you have the sump and that red dragon...but what about the ATO water?
Also, and I might have asked this of dudester a long time ago, but what is the advantage of a closed loop system over whatever else there is? Why do I want one over another kind?
Thanks.
I loved this tank build when it was dudesters and you've done awesome with it now.
I'd like to ask you a few questions, as I'm in the planning and design stages of a similar tank, with AGE as my custom tank of choice.
I'm very new to plumbing a sump and fuge etc...what all did you bring over from dudesters? You have the sump, do you know how many gallons it is? What all do you have down in there; reactors, skimmers, etc? What filtration is being used? What chemicals or bio media is being used?
What about the plumbing do you like the most, and what do you wished you would/could change now?
And from what I could tell and read, you have the water level as low as it is so you can have the wave maker make waves right?
What is the most PITA part of a tank this size? Cleaning and maintenance? About how much time a day do you spend with the tank? How often do you scrap algae? Do you have any bad algae pests or do you attribute your equipment to great water quality?
I'm just trying to figure out what I'm getting into if I move up from my little 34g Nano tank to something of this size, and what all is involved in maintaining one etc...
In the beginning you had all this...is it still the same?
Where do you keep your ATO chamber? I saw underneath the stand you have the sump and that red dragon...but what about the ATO water?
Also, and I might have asked this of dudester a long time ago, but what is the advantage of a closed loop system over whatever else there is? Why do I want one over another kind?
Thanks.
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fishypets
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Trigger happy thanks and I'll do my best to answer all your questions. If I miss something let me know.
The sump is roughly 80 gallons and in the sump I have a ZEOvit reactor, Bubble King skimmer, R.D. return pump and chiller return pump (Ehiem) I decided against a CA RX and instead use a Profilux ii delux and a Profilux doser to dose balling solutions by Fauna Marin (which I love) I also dose all of the KZ products and overall I'm very happy with.
I wouldn't change a think about the plumbing (except how expensive it was) To keep it all looking clean I used grey sch 40 pipes with sch 80 fittings and connections.
Dudester designed the overflow box so he could use a Wave Box and not spill water over the sides. You'll notice that I have the wave box on the back glass facing forward. This gives me a 1.5~2.0" wave without the bulky box on the side panel.
I really can't think of any PITA when it comes to the tank although water changes typically take about 15 minutes. I scrape algae from the glass about once a week and dose some sort of additive every night and pump the ZEOvit reactor two times a day but other than that not much time spent with it (other than looking in it)
No algae issues to speak of but one thing I've disliked about this tank is the lack of flow. In the future I may upgrade my streams to the biggest ones but that's years down the road.
The ATO bucket is slightly to the left and behind the chiller. My wife started architect school this year and her drafting board conceals everything nicely.
As far as the closed loop system advantages the biggest is it's easy to hide the nozzles. Downsides include the risk of flooding your house if the seal ever breaks or leaks and the flow is not as random and gentle as I like. But to get good stong random gentle flow one must use five or six streams on a tank this size which becomes an eye sore.
In closing the only think I dislike at times is the Power Module. Honestly it's way too much light for a tank this size and I'm constantly moving corals around to prevent burning and bleaching. Last week I moved my photo period back from 8 hours to 4 hours and so far the corals are responding very well. Downside is I don't have a lot of "viewing time"
Clint
The sump is roughly 80 gallons and in the sump I have a ZEOvit reactor, Bubble King skimmer, R.D. return pump and chiller return pump (Ehiem) I decided against a CA RX and instead use a Profilux ii delux and a Profilux doser to dose balling solutions by Fauna Marin (which I love) I also dose all of the KZ products and overall I'm very happy with.
I wouldn't change a think about the plumbing (except how expensive it was) To keep it all looking clean I used grey sch 40 pipes with sch 80 fittings and connections.
Dudester designed the overflow box so he could use a Wave Box and not spill water over the sides. You'll notice that I have the wave box on the back glass facing forward. This gives me a 1.5~2.0" wave without the bulky box on the side panel.
I really can't think of any PITA when it comes to the tank although water changes typically take about 15 minutes. I scrape algae from the glass about once a week and dose some sort of additive every night and pump the ZEOvit reactor two times a day but other than that not much time spent with it (other than looking in it)
No algae issues to speak of but one thing I've disliked about this tank is the lack of flow. In the future I may upgrade my streams to the biggest ones but that's years down the road.
The ATO bucket is slightly to the left and behind the chiller. My wife started architect school this year and her drafting board conceals everything nicely.
As far as the closed loop system advantages the biggest is it's easy to hide the nozzles. Downsides include the risk of flooding your house if the seal ever breaks or leaks and the flow is not as random and gentle as I like. But to get good stong random gentle flow one must use five or six streams on a tank this size which becomes an eye sore.
In closing the only think I dislike at times is the Power Module. Honestly it's way too much light for a tank this size and I'm constantly moving corals around to prevent burning and bleaching. Last week I moved my photo period back from 8 hours to 4 hours and so far the corals are responding very well. Downside is I don't have a lot of "viewing time"
Clint
TriggerHappyDude
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Very nice response Clint, I think you covered most of what I was asking. Thank you for all that.
So what is the purpose of a closed loop system? Just to get water moving in the tank without having power heads attached to the glass? Is that the main purpose?
So what do you attribute your water quality to? Water changes? Dosing? Both? How often do you do water changes and how much? What are you dosing?
So what is the purpose of a closed loop system? Just to get water moving in the tank without having power heads attached to the glass? Is that the main purpose?
So what do you attribute your water quality to? Water changes? Dosing? Both? How often do you do water changes and how much? What are you dosing?
fishypets
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Yes you are correct about the closed loop system, you can run a ton of flow through hidden nozzles and in theory cheaper compared to Tunze streams or Vortec's.
In regards to water quality I keep my P04 and NO3 in check with the ZEOvit system. I replace 5% of the water every two weeks which replaces the lost trace elements using Tropic Marin Bio-Actif salt.
In regards to water quality I keep my P04 and NO3 in check with the ZEOvit system. I replace 5% of the water every two weeks which replaces the lost trace elements using Tropic Marin Bio-Actif salt.
TriggerHappyDude
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It also eliminates ugly power heads on the sides or back of the glass.
So I can see the benefits of it. What happens if your power goes out and the pumps go off? Is there any back siphon that might overflow the sump or tank or anything, I'm new to the whole concept so I've never seen one in action and I don't know how the water works...
Also P04 = Phosphates and NO3 = Nitrates, you keep those at 0, which is ultimately great water quality and good for coral frag growth?
fishypets
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So next Wed. I should have three new chalices and 13 new sps frags including the Jose Casas Candelight Concert and the Tyree blue stag. But I'm really excited about the new chalices. Pictures are of the mother colonies but I'll be getting smaller frags.
My Miami
Tangerine Dreams
Widow maker chalice
My Miami
Tangerine Dreams
Widow maker chalice
Rickyrooz1
Acropora Nut
Looking good
Inklinkerman
Member
Any plans for the future? I find it hard to leave things alone, even if everything is ticking over nicely.
fishypets
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Mike thanks dude! Most of those LPS are going in your tank, just waiting for the word.
Bax thanks!
Ink-man, I'm just waiting for it to grow in. I've had my struggles with this tank and finally "In stride" if you know what I mean. Anxious to see it in a year or two.
BTW ZEOvit and balling is the way to go!
Bax thanks!
Ink-man, I'm just waiting for it to grow in. I've had my struggles with this tank and finally "In stride" if you know what I mean. Anxious to see it in a year or two.
BTW ZEOvit and balling is the way to go!
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