Flame Angel help please

tattoooedlex

tattoooedlex

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hi folks, this is my flame angel libarachi. yesterday I noticed this issue he is having. he has two white spots that appeared. one on each side. to me it almost looks like dry skin on a human, not speckled like ich. He is grazing, taking flake and swimming just fine. water parameters are in check. other housmates are African clown( john wayne gasey) and 4( the four hormen) blue chomis. I have noticed that the flam and clown pal around a lot, and the flame gets very close to the clowns anemone, however I do not think that the may be sting marks. any idea on what I am dealing wth? and if I can help, what can I do?
thank you in advance
 
Hmm, that is peculiar. Does it look sorta like his skin is peeling off? HLLE usually starts around the face, but it's still a possibility. Is this a new fish or have you had him awhile? When was the last fish added to the tank?
 
Might be a bacterial infection starting up. Or even the beginnings of Brook (outside chance).

But IMO it's too inconclusive to pull the trigger on QT just yet. I would monitor him closely, and soak his food in fish vitamins (Zoecon, Selcon, Vita-chem). Maybe do a couple of WCs as well. Hopefully, whatever it is, his natural immune system can handle.
 
Hard to tell if he is rubbing or not since day one he is constantly in and out of rock work grazing. I have been watching all day and I am not seeing any signs of distress. Last water change was two weeks ago. Mixing water tonight for tomorrow evening change.he has been eating formula 2 flake and turns his nose from any nori strips
 
This is really strange; the same type of "whatever" at the same location and on both sides of the fish. This is also the thickest area of the fish. Almost like someone grabbed him, damaged the slime coat, and this resulted. Not saying that's what happened, by any means, but it is a hell of a coincidence. Maybe couldn't quite make it through a gap in the LR? I'd bet it goes away, but I'd treat in a HT/QT with an antibiotic if it seems to get worse or more reddish.
 
I may have failed to mention, I do have a feisty coral banded shrimp that loves to try and grab fish. Maybe he actually grabbed him?
 
tattoooedlex said:
I may have failed to mention, I do have a feisty coral banded shrimp that loves to try and grab fish. Maybe he actually grabbed him?
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Back in the day, I kept CBS and never really worried about them damaging my fish. But nowadays everyone says they're fish eaters. So, I jumped on the bandwagon and banished mine to the frag tank just to be safe.
 
update
well nothing much has changed the two sops are still there, haven't changed at all. only issue is now one eyes is starting to cloud. no bulging just a lil scloudy. I have been dropping vitamin c into the flake and have been trying to add Mysis also. tomorrow I will do a water change and then again in 2-3 days.
anything else I can do to help? unfortunateyly I do not have a HT. anything I can add to DT to help?
thank you
 
That spot is where fish in distress often get opportunistic infections. Chromis with brooklynella and starving butterflyfish with vibrio ulcers get lesions in the same area. I think it's a turbulent region of the surface where the pectoral fins keep the slime coat thin and in times of poor water quality, nutritional stress, or high ambient opportunistically pathogenic bacteria or protists (like when something else dies and amplifies disease) you see stuff like this. Treating antibiotics may patch it up but consider underlying causes. How are you phosphates and hardness etc? How old is your food? Are the fish jousting for dominance?
 
my food( formula 2 flake with garlic) is maybe 2-3 months old. I feed Mysis also but he only eats that occasionally. my water is as follows
ph 8.3-8.3 depending on if the ac is running
dkh is between 9-10
phosphates are barely detectable
ammonia nitrite and nitrate are undetectable.
housmates are
African clown(john wayne gasy) with anemone(think it is a hatian reef so it is big bad voodoo daddy)
4 blue chromis(the four horsemen)
and the flame
cuc coral banded shrimp(the judge)
only coral I have are devils hand and radioactive dragon eye zoa
want more but money is tight
water changes consist of 15-18 gallons every 2 weeks(90 gl tank)
water used is rodi with reef crystals
tds from rodi are @1-2

he still shows no sign of distress, just grazes all day comes runnin at dinner bell and hides in rocks after lights out.

like I said before I just mixed water for a 5 pm water change tomorrow and then another come Saturday.
 
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Does this sound odd? Flame looked to be getting worse. Looked like it was loosing color. Adding vitamic c seems lime the color is coming back. However two whit spots remain. Have grown, still the same. Now here is the odd thing. He seems to be presenting the white spots to the chromis. And one of the chromis is nipping at it.he literally swims up to them then tilts sideways and let's a chromi do it? I know this sounds weird but has anyone ever seen this before? Thank you all again
 
Did you already consider flatworm parasites? Those guys will set up shop in a spot on the skin and be large and irritating enough that fish will present for cleaning to other fish. the worms look like loose scales actually and may explain "skin peeling" look. freshwater or formalin dip/copper bath if you can catch the fish. Otherwise maybe a praziquantel tx to the display (will loose most worms and some other inverts and need to watch water quality)
 
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