FlameAngel group.
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lvreefer
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Some additional info:
There are slight differences in both coloration and markings of this species based on the location of collection. Flames from the Marshall Islands are more red in color, with thicker black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from the Cook Islands are more orange in coloration with either small black bars, or only a few thin bars running vertically down the body. Christmas Island Flames are normally a red/orange coloration with thin black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from Tahiti are blood red and contain very little to no yellow.
also,
It is hermaphroditic, very difficult to breed in an aquarium, and has no distinguishable differences in color between male to female.
This does not discount any remarks about fin shape. I hope that it proves to be a telling sign of sex.
There are slight differences in both coloration and markings of this species based on the location of collection. Flames from the Marshall Islands are more red in color, with thicker black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from the Cook Islands are more orange in coloration with either small black bars, or only a few thin bars running vertically down the body. Christmas Island Flames are normally a red/orange coloration with thin black bars running vertically down the body. Flames from Tahiti are blood red and contain very little to no yellow.
also,
It is hermaphroditic, very difficult to breed in an aquarium, and has no distinguishable differences in color between male to female.
This does not discount any remarks about fin shape. I hope that it proves to be a telling sign of sex.
They are all born as females. They can change sex from female to male but not from male to female. If there arent a dominant male in the area one of the females will change sex to a male in just a few weeks. If a female is all alone in your local fish store or in a home aquarium it´s almost 100% male. It´s imported much more males then females they say. I think that the reason for this is that they change sex during the time of handling, transport, quarentine and alone in your local fish store.
Where did you find this information?
In German litterature the shape of the fins is a known difference. I belive that the colour differences of the male and female is a random factor that can not be trusted 100 percent.
LargeAngels
Premium Member
Any updates?
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
Are you talking about flames? Flames do indeed diplay sexual dichromatism -- IMO, people who think they don't either just haven't seen a female or don't know what to look for -you don't have to be concerned about the black bars - use the blue on the anal and rear of the dorsal fins.
zemuron114
In Memoriam
The bars on flame angels has nothing to do with the sex. I've seen a 4" flame with 1 bar, and a 1" flame with 6 bars.. just doenst matter. The only difference i have gathered and seen that can distinguish between male and female are the fins (what was said before ^^)
and the amount of blue on the fins. I also had a large male with streamers! it was very cool. I had never seen one with streamers before. Ive been experimenting with potters pairs. so far i have 3 solid pairs that are doing well and are getting along.
and the amount of blue on the fins. I also had a large male with streamers! it was very cool. I had never seen one with streamers before. Ive been experimenting with potters pairs. so far i have 3 solid pairs that are doing well and are getting along.
Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
Holy cow! :inlove:
For those concerned about the bars - it's the thickness of each bar that will differ between males and females - not the number (And don't look at that first black bar that's more like a splotch) - But since there are regional differences in bar markings, it makes it more confusing.
BTW I didn't get a camera for my BD
Jaken, have you seen spawning angels before?
For those concerned about the bars - it's the thickness of each bar that will differ between males and females - not the number (And don't look at that first black bar that's more like a splotch) - But since there are regional differences in bar markings, it makes it more confusing.
BTW I didn't get a camera for my BD
Jaken, have you seen spawning angels before?
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zemuron114
In Memoriam
beautiful!
Yes, but I have only seen it on video, and in books.
video: Centropyge fisheri spawning rise and gamete release
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Angel*Fish
cats and large squashes
Jaken, they look like they are getting along ok. If these "non- super males" change chromatically, you might possibly be the first to document it in flames.<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=8691236#post8691236 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Jaken
My Flame angels are from Christmas Island.
What a cool video/photo - I'm going to have to learn how to do those,,,
Christmas Island has good safe collection methods I believe - they have an awareness of saving the environment & ecology that you don't find in lots of other collection areas. Humans have only lived there since 1888 (or similar date).
fishybuisness
New member
Jaken hows it going whit the Flame angels ?
Have you seen any late nigth activity or somekind of a change in behaviour ?
Have you seen any late nigth activity or somekind of a change in behaviour ?
skippyreef
New member
Excellent thread.
I am looking at doing some groups of Cherubs and other small angels.
I have heard that the Multicolors are hard to get to eat though. Any wisdom that could be passed on here would be hlpeful
I am looking at doing some groups of Cherubs and other small angels.
I have heard that the Multicolors are hard to get to eat though. Any wisdom that could be passed on here would be hlpeful
There are no big changes in their behavior. Some chasing around, circling and displaying of fins but nothing more then that, jet.
Nothing new to report. They are all doing well and still no fighting or nipping on corals. I try to give them a mixed diet.
This is what I feed my flame angels:
Ocean Nutrition Formula 1 granular food
Ocean Nutrition Formula 2 granular food
Fauna Marin - Ultra-Health granular food
frozen artemia + Sera Fishtamin
frozen Ocean Nutrition angel formula
frozen Ocean Nutrition formula 1
frozen Ocean Nutrition formula 2
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LargeAngels
Premium Member
Most of my angels also love spectrum pellets.
LargeAngels
Premium Member
What about Hakari S pellets?
