flushing fish

[Moonstream]

I have seen many people telling others to flush there fish. Now, this is a bad idea and is very creuel! Even dead fish should not be flushed! The live fish dont die on impact, they die slowly from the ammonia and chlorine in the water. Please don't flush fish, it is wrong and creuel! Oh and by the way the fish can live up to 2 weeks in the plumbing.

 

[humbugy]

just out of curiosity, what do you base the two weeks on?

 

[J. Montgomery]

Why shouldn't dead fish be flushed? What alternative do you suggest?

 

[RichConley]

Re: flushing fish

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10214899#post10214899 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Moonstream
I have seen many people telling others to flush there fish. Now, this is a bad idea and is very creuel! Even dead fish should not be flushed! The live fish dont die on impact, they die slowly from the ammonia and chlorine in the water. Please don't flush fish, it is wrong and creuel! Oh and by the way the fish can live up to 2 weeks in the plumbing.

I'd think this is entirely conjecture.


I have a septic system. If I flush a fish, I guarantee there is nothing left within 24 hours. Thats what septic systems do, dissolve organic waste.

Also, even on sewer, how is my saltwater fish going to survive for 2 weeks in freshwater?

 

[HBtank]

Hey..

All drains lead to the ocean!

 

[Reeferon]

A more humane way might be to put the fish in a plastic bag and then put it in the freezer for a day or two...
then flush it.
This way you will be sure that the fish is dead when you flush him.
and if he wasn't dead when you put it in the freezer, it died an easy death.

 

[wazbot]

I bury my deceased fish around my fruit trees.

I bury them deep enough so that the local animal population can't dig them up.

Then I eat the fruit!

:rollface:

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10221455#post10221455 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Reeferon
A more humane way might be to put the fish in a plastic bag and then put it in the freezer for a day or two...
then flush it.
This way you will be sure that the fish is dead when you flush him.
and if he wasn't dead when you put it in the freezer, it died an easy death.

Theres plenty of reasons why freezing a fish isnt humane. Its not accepted as a humane death by the AZA, or any other organization. MS222, a drug, or decapitation are really the only humane options.

 

[Reeferon]

What's AZA?

 

[Moonstream]

I have used the freezer meathod many times for my FW fish. I even used it on one of my prized female bettas. I was under the immpresion that it was very humane.

 

[cwilson]

how is this advanced?

 

[Paul B]

I don't want to hurt anyone's feelings but I think you are getting a little carried away. I eat fish almost every day and my family was in the fish market business for hundreds of years. Every fish caught and there are hundreds of millions of tons caught every year suffocate to death in the hold of a ship. Every fish that does not get caught (or collected) gets eaten alive by something larger.
Even Christ ate fish that died on a ship. I doubt he froze them first. They diden't have extention cords to plug in the freezers then
:lol:
I think it is perfectly alright to flush fish. The freshwater will kill them in a few minutes, probably shorter than freezing them.

I would not flush a healthy fish but I don't think anyone else would either.
I also believe that fish do not feel pain but we already went through a post about that and I don't want to start it again, so flush away.
By the way, that hamburger you ate for lunch also was not put to sleep before they shot a dart through it's head. And don't get me started on chickens. :eek1:
Paul

 

[Icefire]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10226797#post10226797 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by Paul B
I would not flush a healthy fish but I don't think anyone else would either. Paul

Many do it for the devil's fish, the damsel :lol:

 

[wtac]

AZA = Association of Zoos and Aquarium.

 

[Weezel111]

where did all this " humane way to kill a fish" talk come from...i didnt realize this was a PETA forum...come on people, its a fish, they dont have feelings, flush 'em down...or (like my post in the other thread) feed them to the cat...its the circle of life and cats love fish...

 

[kevin2000]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10225339#post10225339 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by RichConley
Theres plenty of reasons why freezing a fish isnt humane. Its not accepted as a humane death by the AZA, or any other organization. MS222, a drug, or decapitation are really the only humane options.

My 02

Yes MS222 is an approved anesthetic used to euthanize fish .. but the cost and availability make it a useless recommendation to most aquarist. Decapitation doesn't fall into the same accepted category as MS222 and many aquarist would be reluctant to take that approach (accepted or not)

Putting a fish into a bag of SW and placing into the freezer is still the most accepted method of euthanizing fish for std aquarist.

 

[BE-MAC]

if the fish is causing problems to the tank do what california does to trouble makers put them in the chair"the microwave". j/k

 

[RichConley]

<a href=showthread.php?s=&postid=10234682#post10234682 target=_blank>Originally posted</a> by kevin2000
Decapitation doesn't fall into the same accepted category as MS222 and many aquarist would be reluctant to take that approach (accepted or not)

Putting a fish into a bag of SW and placing into the freezer is still the most accepted method of euthanizing fish for std aquarist.

Putting the fish in the freezer is no better than just throwing it out on the counter.


Atleast decapitation kills it quickly, and painlessly.

 

[Dell2go]

If I don't flush it, I'll deep fry it for the cat.

 

[Dell2go]

That way nothing is going to wasted or polluted. I would think it as a recycle rather cruel.